On YouTube, Nick Fuentes says “we kind of need to rethink” having “a multiracial religiously pluralistic society”
Fuentes to Bradley Martyn: “They basically reconstituted America in the '60s. ... From 1600 until 1960, America was almost all white, all Christian, and you can look at, like, every president even. Abraham Lincoln did not want to free the slaves.”
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From the December 2, 2025, edition of Bradley Martyn’s Raw Talk
BRADLEY MARTYN (HOST): There seems to be like, when we're incorporating religion into at least what America is, from what I understand constitutionally, like when they originally did it, they were like, ”This needs to be separate. We need to separate these things because we're going to have so many different people here because that's what America is.” And then your perspective is, “Well, I want it to be this way.”
NICK FUENTES (GUEST): Well, I mean, for starters, the Founding Fathers never intended that we were going to have diversity. You know? And when America was founded, it was almost all English Protestants for the most part, with the except -- There were some Catholics in Maryland, but it was basically all English Protestants. And in Federalist No. 2 by John Jay -- These are the papers that it was John Jay, Alexander Hamilton, I think James Madison, they wrote 50-some papers in favor of the Constitution, to adopt the Constitution.
And in the second Federalist Paper, John Jay writes, this is -- He's very clear about this in the end. He said, “God gave us this land, one continent for one people, with one language, one religion, with common characteristics, from one place.” Like, it was very clear. There was no diversity. And in the 1790 immigration law, one of the first laws, they said, “It's going to be white people moving here.” In the election in 1800, Alexander Hamilton wanted to make it a law that you could not run for office if you're not Christian, to prevent Thomas Jefferson from becoming president because he wasn't really a Christian.
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Our conception of America is formed out of the Civil Rights Act and the civil rights era, where you had the ACLU and the ADL and a lot of Jewish groups, as well as a lot of pro-Black groups and MLK Jr. and the rest of them. They basically reconstituted America in the '60s, where they said, “Actually, America's for everybody. America's about diversity and all the different races and religions hanging out.”
But from 1600 until 1960, America was almost all white, all Christian, and you can look at, like, every president even. Abraham Lincoln did not want to free the slaves. That's not why he fought the Civil War. And Abraham Lincoln, before he died, was working vigorously to send all the freed slaves back to Africa.
This was like a -- And this is not talked about in history books, but Abraham Lincoln tried really hard. They had colonies in -- Liberia was one of them and another colony in Central America. They tried to send all the freed Blacks back because every president from Washington through to, you could say, almost Harry Truman, they said that “we never intended for whites and Blacks to live together with full social and legal equality.” And I'm not arguing for that.
MARTYN: Right.
NICK FUENTES: But that is historically what they believed. Now, it is a matter of fact that America has become diverse and racially integrated, and, you know, the Constitution was changed a number of times. And we have to figure out -- I think that we want to live in harmony. I like the words harmony, cooperation. I think the races should cooperate, and I want there to be peace and respect and dignity between the races.
But we have to keep in mind that the Founding Fathers, when they devised the system, they did not devise it with a multiracial religiously pluralistic society in mind. That's not, and I don't think it works that way. I think it's very difficult to make self-governance work when you have a ton of different types of people living in a giant empire like we have. I think we kind of need to rethink that.
MARTYN: I see what you're saying.