BILL O'REILLY (HOST): Depends when the debate is but right now I think the number, probably is lower than 62 percent opposed to the wall. I would say it's probably 55 - 45. Because these organizations, the way they word the questions, here is the bottom line on the wall. The wall would save thousands of lives. Maybe millions of lives, because it would prevent the coyotes, these are the human people smugglers who rape, who beat these people up, sometimes kill them. These are the poor migrants trying to get in here, I mean it's a harrowing, harrowing business --
LOU DOBBS: Without question.
O'REILLY: Right. So it eliminates them to most of that extent. So it saves horrors for the migrants themselves, and then the drug trafficking --
DOBBS: Which no one wants to talk about.
O'REILLY: I do.
DOBBS: So do I.
O'REILLY: Tons of narcotics coming across that border. With the wall, that would stop 80 percent of it. And when people say it wouldn't, you just go, go to Israel. Israel built the wall between them and the Palestinian Authority and it works.
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O'REILLY: Do you buy into a wall would save millions of lives?
DOBBS: I absolutely do.
O'REILLY: That's how you sell it.
