ALISYN CAMEROTA (HOST): So Donald Trump seemed to confuse there radical Islam and the Nation of Islam.
SAM CLOVIS: Right, right.
CAMEROTA: Shouldn't he know the difference between those two?
CLOVIS: Well, I think right now there is -- it's possible for people to conflate. We still don't know a lot about what's going on with this last particular individual.
CAMEROTA: But those are two separate groups with separate motivations and separate everything.
CLOVIS: Exactly, but I do think there are times when people, when they're up early in the morning and making comments, or on television, sometimes they conflate things, so --
CAMEROTA: Yes. We understand morning confusion, certainly. But Donald Trump is one of the people who has said you got to call it what it is -- you’ve got to call something exactly what it is in order to fight it.
CLOVIS: Well, do we know? Do we know for sure?
CAMEROTA: We from his web postings that how he self-identified as a member of Nation of Islam, among other things.
CLOVIS: Does he have sympathies with radical Islam? Do we know?
CAMEROTA: Not that we know of.
CLOVIS: Not that we know, not yet, not yet. So I think until we have all the evidence that we shouldn't be so critical of the comments and we'll just wait and see how it works out.
