CHRIS WALLACE (HOST): On the one hand, given the revelations about the fact the DNC and the Clinton campaign paid for the Russian dossier, in effect, do we at this moment have harder evidence of collusion between Clinton and the Russians than we do about Trump and the Russians?

GOWDY: You know Chris, there are five words that start with “C”: collusion, coordination, conspiracy, contact, and coincidence. And where this falls out in those five Cs, I don’t know. The word collusion has a criminal connotation to it. I think the premise of your question is accurate. For a long time we’ve heard about all the ties between the Trump campaign and Russia, for which there is no evidence. And lo and behold, despite serious Democrat opposition, we have uncovered that the DNC was working with Russian actors to try to besmirch Donald Trump’s reputation. So it’s certainly interesting, whether it’s collusion, coincidence, coordination, I don’t know yet.

Related:

NY Times: Conservative website first funded anti-Trump research by firm that later produced dossier

Previously:

Right-wing media figures claim Trump Jr. was part of a “setup made to give the appearance of Russian collusion”

To right-wing media, Donald Trump Jr.'s meeting with a Kremlin-connected lawyer is a “nothingburger”