Steve Bannon calls Jack Posobiec a “sap” for his part in the Trump DOJ's Epstein binder stunt

Posobiec was one of 15 right-wing influencers involved in the Epstein PR blitz in February, and is quoted at the time as saying “more and more pieces of this” would be coming

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From the July 11, 2025, edition of Real America's Voice's War Room

CHARLIE KIRK (FOUNDER, TURNING POINT USA): There's enormous confusion on my part. We're told there's a list on a desk. Jack, I don't want to get into your whole thing. How Jack was — Jack was used. I mean, let's just be honest, right?

JACK POSOBIEC (GUEST): I get told that was Phase One.

KIRK: That's not Jack's fault. Jack was used. I hope you guys understand that.

POSOBIEC: Thank you, Charlie. But I was told there'd be more. We were all told there was more. And now they're telling us there's nothing.

STEVE BANNON (HOST): And hold it — like a sap, you believed them. You're from the intelligence community. Jack Posobiec, you're from the intelligence community. They're playing us. They're playing all of us. By the way, it's not just the media —

POSOBIEC: Woah, Steve. Recovery. Recovery. 

As CBS News reported in late February:

A group of 15 right-wing influencers visited the White House on Thursday and emerged with binders labeled “The Epstein Files: Phase 1” that they obtained from Attorney General Pam Bondi, who has vowed to release information held by the Justice Department about the late sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

But some of those who received the binder said there was little new information in the files. Bondi later released a statement with links to the documents, and said, “The first phase of declassified files largely contains documents that have been previously leaked but never released in a formal capacity by the U.S. Government.”

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A total of 15 influencers were on hand for the meeting, according to Kraus. Others included conspiracy promoter Jack Posobiec, election denier Scott Presler and Rogan O'Handley and Chaya Raichik, the people behind the accounts DC_Draino and LibsofTikTok, respectively.

Posobiec described the contents of the binders as “contacts” and “flight logs.” He said “more and more pieces of this” would be coming.