PBD panelist Vincent Oshana on Trump calling his supporters out over Epstein: “That’s horseshit”
Oshana: “I've lost not only friendships, I've lost family members I don't even talk to anymore because of this shit. And then you're gonna come out and tell us, like, ‘I don't need your support. I don't need you.'”
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From the July 17, 2025, edition of PBD Podcast streamed on YouTube
PATRICK BET-DAVID (HOST): So Tom, one end, resume -- a lot of victories. On this end, Epstein, he's not letting it go. Now he's calling stupid people, I've not heard a strategy where you call your customers stupid, or you call your voting base stupid.
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VINCENT OSHANA (PANELIST): What a, what a shitty, sorry, thing to say. Like, people like us, people like me, people like you, people like Tom, that have been ride or die with this guy for 10 years through all the smear jobs, all the witch hunt, all the hit pieces, Russia collusion, Hillary's bullshit, impeachment one, impeachment two, fake indictments, lawfare, COVID, all the jab mandates, all the -- people lost everything. We lost jobs. We lost families. People died. People were censored, blacklisted, just for saying his name. I was in California, guys, I was in the belly of the beast of the biggest Trump hating, red hat, punching people in the face. That whole thing. I'm not taking away from him. He's the president. He's gone through a ridiculous journey, including getting shot in the head. OK? Alright?
We were in the trenches with you. OK? And now what? Because we're questioning one thing, Jeffrey Epstein, suddenly we're the enemy. We're the losers. We're the idiots. Look away. Shut up. It's Russia collusion.
That's horseshit. OK? This -- Epstein has been going on since early 2000s, what? Maybe even the 90s he was doing this perverted stuff. You don't get to do that. I'm sorry. And everybody always thinks that we're always on the Trump train, and we don't have any criticism. I'm sorry, bro. You don't do that shit. You don't spit in our faces.
Everything that we've been through. Pat, I've lost not only friendships, I've lost family members I don't even talk to anymore because of this shit. And then you're gonna come out and tell us, like, ‘I don't need your support. I don't need you.' OK, have that attitude, and you're gonna see it make these people lose. 2006, the midterms, you're gonna lose that type of freaking support and anybody attached to his name. If Eric tries to run, if anybody with the Trump name 2028 tries to run, this is gonna be hanging over the head because now the trust is lost. OK? We're the idiot?
BET-DAVID (HOST): You think it's going to hurt the entire last name?
OSHANA: 100%. And I'm gonna be this guy, Pat. We cannot let this shit go. I'm actually happy. I'm happy. I know people are probably like, we're tired of it, move on. We're on, what's today? Thursday? I'm so happy that we're still talking about this.
BET-DAVID: We're only talking about it because he's talking about it.
OSHANA: Thank you!