Newsmax host: “It seems almost surreal to believe” that Trump “is now all of a sudden beholden to whatever it is that's trying to suppress a potential client list for Jeffrey Epstein”
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From the July 9, 2025, edition of Newsmax's Rob Schmitt Tonight
ROB SCHMITT: (HOST): We've known President Trump as a politician — we've known Donald Trump as a politician for almost 10 years now. Right? And it's — you know, we've — the one thing that's been true this whole time is that he hasn't been beholden to anything. I mean, that's what's just so, you know, appealing about him is that he is what he is, and he's a flawed person, but nobody controls him. Nobody owns him. No special interests can control him.
So in my mind, the first thing that I run to when I hear — and you get this from everybody in MAGA world. I mean, X is exploding with people very angry at the administration, very angry the president. It's just like, he's gone this far without being controlled by anything. To me, it seems almost surreal to believe that this man is now all of a sudden beholden to whatever it is that's trying to suppress a potential client list for Jeffrey Epstein. It just doesn't seem like he would do that.
CHARLIE KIRK (GUEST): And I have not engaged in that rhetoric, as you know, Rob. And, however, I receive a lot of it and some people are — they're a little bit upset and they're a little bit frustrated, especially on the younger side. And so let me just add a little bit more detail, though. I think MAGA is more unified as ever. And you see that in the polls.
But Saagar Enjenti said something recently, I think is important that we must differentiate between MAGA and the right, and the right involves some people that voted for MAGA back in November, but they're part of that multi-generational, multi-viewpoint coalition. You know what it's like to build an election? And this is where President Donald Trump deserves such credit. He spoke at the Libertarian convention. He brought together border hawks, and he brought together people that care about the economy and older voters and younger voters. So you have this kind of consensus from the MAHA people. I mean, it's an incredible coalition that was built here.
But I do want to be very clear that the transparency advocates that are younger in nature, they have been very confused. And it's left me a little profoundly confused by just some of the administration officials that told us that there was going to be this big reveal, Rob. And then we didn't quite get that. And then we're told that information doesn't exist.
And so, look, the president, he's working his tail off, he's solving the Congo-Rwanda war. He's got Iran, he's got Israel, one big, beautiful bill. And I think that some clarification down the road might be very well suited. But look, this is a big moment in a more than one way. And I do want to emphasize one last thing, that for the younger audience that for students that are online, they are very interested in this. This story is bigger than it is on cable TV because it's taken on a life of its own. Because it has so many dimensions, as you know Rob, from foreign intelligence to sex trafficking, so on and so forth.