Newsmax host: “Health care worked. Not everybody had it because not everybody was forced to have it and not everybody wanted it.”
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From the October 22, 2025, edition of Newsmax's Carl Higbie Frontline
CARL HIGBIE (HOST): I want to get to this. The reason the government shut down is because Democrats want to do all these subsidies for health care for the ACA, specifically for illegal immigrants and things like that. But the expiration of these health credits, these tax credits and stuff like that, Democrats voted to have it sunset in the first year of the Trump administration for solely political purposes. And now they're using it to say that Trump is bad. It's like those people are the ones who made it sunset in the first place.
ROB MALONE (GUEST): So your problem is that Democrats lie, mislead, and manipulate information? This is like saying, I have a problem, that the sun rises in the morning.
HIGBIE: Yeah. But the staggering thing here is all these people — and, you know, as a health care guy, you clearly know this — is that health care worked. Not everybody had it because not everybody was forced to have it and not everybody wanted it. Yes, it was a tragedy for some people when they, you know, had a serious injury or illness or something like that. However, it was their choice. Obamacare comes in. Yes, you have to have health care. Then they brag about how many people are on health care because it's the law, but then they're shocked when premiums go up, because now men have to pay for maternity leave because or, you know, lady doctor appointments that they shouldn't have to pay because it's a one size fits all. How do we get back to sanity in a health care system that actually works?
MALONE: That is the multi-billion dollar question. You just put your finger right on it. It is the hottest source of debate within MAHA and within the various physician communities and organizations like AAPS, this organization that supports primary physicians and health care providers. How do we get back to a system that makes sense, that is cost effective? And that is absolutely at the heart of the MAHA alliance. I suggest that anybody interested in what the current policies are for MAHA and MAHA commission, they may find it useful to look at our Substack. I've done a couple of deep dives into public policy over the last couple of days. They're not really popular with the X crowd, but if you want to get into the gears and see what is being planned by the president and the secretary, it's important to pay attention to the details. And the plans are amazing. Major reorganization, refocusing and in general, focusing on health promotion, not disease treatment.