STEPHEN MILLER: I want to drill down to the heart, Lou, of what is happening in our country right now. You have people inside the executive branch, permanent career government officials who do not recognize democracy. I know because I deal with some of these people every day or every week.
LOU DOBBS (HOST): You're talking about the deep state.
MILLER: I'm talking about the deep state, Lou. And the -- everything we are trying to do to make working Americans have a better future is constantly blocked and sabotaged by the deep state, and we are breaking through and we are winning and we'll keep on winning.
But what you have with this current nonscandal, noncontroversy, made-up, phony story from this fake whistleblower about Ukraine, what you have is somebody inside the government along with their allies trying to overthrow a democratically elected president so they can get their policies that they want put in place. That's what's at stake for every American. Do you believe we should be governed by a democracy or not?
DOBBS: Well, I'm quite happy with this constitutional republic and less than happy, as you know, with the deep state, that is not only entrenched, but expanding and increasingly powerful.