JASON CHAFFETZ (GUEST HOST): Shocking new emails show the NIH's lead men, Dr. Fauci and Dr. Francis Collins, coordinating a smear campaign against a group of scientists who opposed COVID lockdowns after they appeared on this show.
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CHAFFETZ: My next guest was one of the targets of Fauci and Collins' smear campaigns. Joining me now is Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, Stanford school of medicine professor and original signer of the Great Barrington Declaration. Thank you so much. You got your medical degree from Stanford. You've been with Stanford for more than 20 years. I'd hardly call you somebody on the fringe, but I heard what Dr. Collins tried to characterize what this declaration said and it seemed to me he got it entirely wrong.
JAY BHATTACHARYA: No, he straight up lied. He basically said that we wanted the virus to spread, rip through the population, and Dr. Fauci said the same thing, it was a let it rip strategy. Anyone that reads the Great Barrington Declaration, you can go look online. That phrase does not appear in it because the central idea of the Great Barrington Declaration is the focused protection of the vulnerable. There's a thousandfold difference in the risk of severe outcomes. We know the elderly and old people and certain people with chronic diseases have high risk of bad outcomes if they get infected. So we should -- the Great Barrington Declaration said let's focus our attention on protecting those people. And at the same time, the lockdowns were harming so many other people, especially kids who were locked out of school, especially poor kids, and so we argued for opening up society for the rest of us while protecting the vulnerable. What I was expecting was an honest discussion. Instead, what we got was lies from the head of the NIH. It was absolutely shocking.
CHAFFETZ: Did you ever think that they would actually target you? They wanted a quote, unquote, "devastating response and takedown" of what you were advocating. And it wasn't just you, there were scientists from all over the world that were signing on to this.