LAURA INGRAHAM (HOST): It's hard to judge people on our standards more enlightened today and then say, "Well, 200 years ago you did this" -- yeah, we did a lot of really bad things, including owning slaves.
RAYMOND ARROYO: Right. Correct.
INGRAHAM: Again, I say this is a Connecticut Yankee. Okay? I don't really have any great affinity for a lot of this, but otherwise -- they're going to take the rotunda down at the University of Virginia where I went to law school. They will take the Thomas Jefferson. They will -- because it's all created as part of the ode to western civilization.
ARROYO: -- It was created by Jefferson.
INGRAHAM: Yeah, he designed it. So, all of it has to go. Every last bit of it has to -- actually, the whole University of Virginia then should just go because he designed the whole thing. So -- we got to keep it going, though.
ARROYO: In the case of Andy -- In the case of Andy Jackson, really quickly, they say, "Look, he created the Trail of Tears, he attacked the Indians" -- here's the reality, he went to war with the Creeks in 1813 because they massacred 250 Americans.
ARROYO: Cut women open, left their embryos out, he saw a lot of bitter battle. This is how he held the country together. It was ugly, but those were the times. Take it all as it is, as it happened.