Jillian Michaels accuses Trump of a “flip-flop” on the Epstein files: “It’s the same flip-flop times a million because imagine the phone calls. Everybody’s life is going to be ruined.”
Michaels: “He is not a perfect human being. And the reality is that I’ve already seen it once. … You were the guy that initiated the whole night night for TikTok and now you’re the guy that saved it because they donated to the campaign.”
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From the February 15, 2026, edition of Keeping it Real with Jillian Michaels, uploaded to YouTube
FORMER REP. MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE (R-GA) (GUEST): And then one day, I get a phone call from the president in September, and he is so mad at me. And he's yelling at me, and he's angry at me. And the fact -- he's like, “You're supporting [Sen.] Rand Paul Jr. (R-KY),” and he's chewing me out for signing my name on [Rep.] Thomas Massie's (R-KY) discharge petition to release the Epstein files. And I'm trying to tell him, “Mr. President, they say you did nothing wrong. This needs to come out.” And so we're having this argument, and he tells me on this phone call, he's like, “Marjorie, my friends will get hurt.”
JILLIAN MICHAELS (HOST): That’s it. That’s it. That’s it. I mean that is it, obviously, that’s it. Because they’re all in here. Imagine the phone calls. It’s everyone. It’s every single person is on this freaking list.
GREENE: Yes.
MICHAELS: They’re all there. Every billionaire, heads of state, Larry Summers, Peter Thiel. They’re all in there. And you know what I remember -- This is a bit of a sidebar but also a precursor. Trump was the one who wanted to take down ... TikTok. Do you remember that?
GREENE: TikTok, yeah, yeah.
MICHAELS: He was the one who was like, “This is a Chinese plant. This thing needs to be sunset. Night night TikTok,” and everybody was having a meltdown about that. Cut to --
GREENE: I voted no to that one too. I voted no to the TikTok ban. [unintelligible]
MICHAELS: They gave him a bunch of money for his campaign, and all of a sudden, guess who saved TikTok? And the thing of it is, listen, a lot of my viewers get very upset, but like, guys, I’m sorry, you get upset when we point out things about Donald Trump that are not great, but the reality is like I can’t fold to audience capture and you guys need to know the truth. And the truth is more important than tribalism. Do I think Trump is a better option than Kamala Harris? Oh my god, absolutely.
GREENE: Absolutely, absolutely.
MICHAELS: But what I refuse to do -- He is not a perfect human being. And the reality is that I've already seen it once. I remember thinking with TikTok. Wait, you were the dude. You were the guy that initiated the whole night night for TikTok and now you're the guy that saved it because they donated to the campaign.
GREENE: That’s right.
MICHAELS: And my guess it’s the same flip-flop times a million because imagine the phone calls. Everybody’s life is going to be ruined. The most powerful people in the world. And by the way, Marjorie, when I look at this, I'm like, hold on. Like, you didn't actually raid the island. You didn't raid the ranch in New Mexico. Like, you didn't take the tapes that were left in the penthouse. You've redacted all of these files. There's supposedly another data dump that we're never going to see. What we've seen so far, I'm told, is the tip of this evil iceberg.
GREENE: Yes. Yes, because there’s 3 million more files that have not been released and my understanding is those are worse. And out of the millions of files that have been released a lot of it has been redacted that shouldn't be redacted.
MICHAELS: Yes.
GREENE: And so yes, there's a lot more to come out and yes it's really bad and it -- You know what? I totally agree with you. Like, I 100% support the Trump administration. I'm so thankful for the secure border.
MICHAELS: Yeah, agree.
GREENE: I am so thankful that our economy is stabilizing. There's so much to be thankful for. Of course, I support that.
MICHAELS: Me too.
GREENE: But it's like, everybody, stop being so blinded. You're not -- I mean, are you in a cult? He's not a god. He is a man. And if we can't recognize the good and the bad in a man, then I'm -- We're living a lie. And yes, Donald Trump is the same guy that shut down the country with COVID. He's also the same guy that fast-tracked the COVID vaccine, which I'm very much against. He's also the same guy, like you said, that came out against TikTok and then somehow made sure it was sold to one of his friends who's in the Epstein files. And if people aren't willing to take off their blinders and look at this, I’m sorry. You’re living in a lie. You're living, you're choosing to live in a fantasyland because that is the truth. It's -- We can say, “Thank you for these policies,” and at the same time be like --
MICHAELS: But not those. Don't do that. That is not OK. Here's the line.