Dinesh D'Souza tells Laura Loomer that Candace Owens makes “wild allegations” through her “bogus investigations”
D'Souza also attacked Tucker Carlson for using a “ventriloquist journalism technique” to platform ideas like “we should have allied with Hitler against Stalin”
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From the September 30, 2025, edition of Loomer Unleashed streamed on Rumble
DINESH D'SOUZA (GUEST): And in a sense, what's happening is that I think the pied pipers of this new movement are realizing that there are a lot of down-and-out young people whose lives are really messed up. And, you know, when that happens, they look for someone to blame. So they're finding that they're getting a receptive audience. And, look, part of it is also that, you know, institutions have earned our distrust. The CDC lies to us. The FBI lies to us, so people become very distrustful. They're very willing to believe even the most preposterous theories.
And so it is a little hard to believe that, you know, that you have rational people who listen to one of Candace's, quote, ‘investigations.' These are not investigations. They're just wild allegations, sort of leading questions, bogus investigations that never produce a single fact, a single reliable theory that you can work with. They never reach any conclusion. And the moment they run out of gas, a new incendiary accusation comes in its place. I mean, there's an element that's almost a dark comedy here. You know, it is ultimately an intellectualism and an iconoclasm that is absolutely for stupid people. Because there's no rational basis for it. None of these people really defend their ideas either.
LAURA LOOMER (HOST): No.
D'SOUZA: I mean, with Tucker, it's a little different because I think he's operating in a more kind of elusive way. But, even with Tucker, he uses the ventriloquist journalism technique. By that, I mean, he'll have a guest on, and he'll let the guest say something really outrageous. ‘We should have allied with Hitler against Stalin.' Tucker: ‘Well, that's very interesting. I never thought of that.' You know? Now, if you wanna argue that out —
LOOMER: ‘We should rehabilitate Hitler. Or, you know, when I think of Osama bin Laden, I think of sending condolences to his family. And come to think of it, Hamas is not actually a jihadist terrorist organization. It's more of a political group.'
D'SOUZA: Right. But why would— think of it, what makes— Tucker is a pretty smart guy. Why would he do that? Right? Now he'll say something like, ‘Well, you know, this was really discussed around World War II.' Actually, no. After World War II, Patton and others said, ‘Now that we've crushed Hitler, maybe we should go on to Moscow and defeat Stalin.' That's a whole different thing from saying we should have allied with Hitler in the first place. That was not a respectable point of view, and yet there's a sort of— and a lot of young people don't know any better.
So they're like, ‘Oh, yeah, that's interesting. Well, you know, maybe George Patton was on my side, and that's been suppressed by the media.' So, I am watching all this with dismay, Laura, because I've been a kind of iconoclast in my own way, but I try very hard to take these received opinions and demolish them with systematic facts. You know? So what I'm seeing is a parody and a caricature of what I've tried to build my own career on.