On his radio show, Trump attorney agrees with caller who complains that the “satanic” media exaggerate threat to hospitals from COVID-19

On his Saturday radio show, Trump attorney Marc Scaringi focused on a public mask mandate in the state of Pennsylvania, agreeing with a caller who complained that the “satanic lying media” was wrong about hospitals being overrun by COVID-19.

Scaringi agreed with complaints about masks and hospitals from “John in East Berlin.” A subsequent caller attempted to correct the record before getting cut off.


Marc Scaringi takes calls on masks and the "satanic" media

Marc Scaringi takes calls on masks and the "satanic" media
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Citation From the November 21, 2020, edition of WHP's The Marc Scaringi Show

MARC SCARINGI (HOST): Let's see, John from East Berlin. You're on The Marc Scaringi Show.

CALLER: Hey, Marc. Good afternoon. Great to talk to you as always.


CALLER: One of the things that we got to understand, and I hope your listeners understand, is, you know, the masks, as far as many of us are concerned, don't really help. This is more, you know, these power-hungry people that are in charge right now in this commonwealth are officializing everything. And if I may be a little facetious — well, first of all, I'm highly infuriated with all of this mess, not just because of the recent mask mandate, but, you know, maybe we should tell Richard, I mean, Rachel Levine that he needs to wear a mask and not because of COVID concerns. You know, that's kind of the way I feel about it. And most of my counterparts feel the same way, where one of the things I think that's very, how should I say, unique is that, you know, at the beginning of all of this mess, you know, the illustrious Dr. Fauci himself said that masks weren't good for you.

I can tell you some personal experiences with people that have worn them. I have a relative that wore the PPE mask. The N95, was doing an internship. Guess what? She got tested and got the COVID anyway, in spite of all the masks. I've also been in contact with another doctor. Usually, the doctors that disagree with this are always shut out.


CALLER: You know, they're debunked. But he said that the mask, for the most part, that the molecules of this COVID-19 is — they're so small that they penetrate it. So when you put this mask on and you do actually get around somebody that actually has it, you're carrying around a little garden over your face the whole time.

SCARINGI: Right. The problem, right, you're identifying is the mask can actually work as a placebo.

CALLER: Yes, yes. Absolutely.

SCARINGI: It gives you absolutely gives you a false sense that you're going to be safe from spreading or contracting COVID when that's not necessarily the case. And you're exactly right about these health officials, the ones who we're all looking to for leadership, Dr. Fauci, also the CDC, the United States surgeon general, initially when this pandemic hit, told us not to wear masks.

CALLER: That's right.

SCARINGI: And acted like we were silly, unenlightened people for thinking that maybe we should put masks on. They admonished us for that and now —


SCARINGI: They flipped their position 180 degrees. So, yes, I think we're right to be skeptical when they change their position entirely.


SCARINGI: And in both cases, by the way, they're being rather arrogant about it. It's always — it's Dr. Fauci, you know, arrogantly saying, oh, we should all be wearing masks. Two to three months ago, you told us that we were stupid for wearing masks. So come on, you know.

CALLER: Well, this is all a farce, this whole thing. You know, and another thing about the cases that are reported, and I know some of the guys listening now are you know, they've heard me say this and they've said it to me. It's the cases don't necessarily mean the people are sick or even have it. And I've heard that, you know, you have a case, you know, if you or I, let's say you go get 10 COVID tests and I get 10 COVID tests, that's 20 new cases.

And I'm not so sure that the big counts, you know, we're up around six or seven thousand, aren't cumulative. They're not you know, they just didn't happen today. You know, they're skewing the numbers. There was a hospital down in Florida that when it comes to the hospitals being overcrowded.

One of the things, and I hope your audience hears this, is that when they say the hospital beds are full, what they're not telling you is a lot of these hospitals, most of these hospitals and not just here, they're not even opening the full hospital. They're not even staffing the full hospital. So if you open up a third of the hospital and you have a third of the staff, and that gets crowded, when the media, when the satanic lying media reports it, they're not telling us that aspect of it, that the whole entire hospital isn't open and that the cases, how many people are sick, how many people have been cured. They're not telling us. Everything is taken out of context. They create a great — 

SCARINGI: You're exactly right about that. And that's the point I wish would be highlighted. And that is these hospitals, they have all kinds of contingency plans —


SCARINGI: — for when there is a risk of being overrun. You're exactly right, they might only have 14 ICU beds on a regular basis, but they have a contingency plan to double that within a short period of time in the event that is necessary. So if you take the contingency plans into effect, they actually have much more ability to absorb the patients than the media reports.


SCARINGI: But I thought you were exactly right on that. And we have talked about that in the litigation that we filed. But, John, thanks for calling. I want to get to some other calls quickly before another break. Bob from Harrisburg, you're on The Marc Scaringi Show.


SCARINGI: Rich from Camp Hill, you're on The Marc Scaringi Show.

CALLER: Yeah, I have a question for you. You're an attorney, correct?


CALLER: OK, good. I'll stay off the civil and the criminal side of the blue and the red book. Let me ask you this. You just said something. There's so much misinformation here regarding hospitals, for example. You said something about beds and availability of hospitals.


CALLER: Every hospital has a utilization review study that they turned over to the people that pay the bills, the federal government, they say we can operate safely at 65% of our available beds. OK, it's not just beds. It's beds, it's equipment, and it's space. And it's the ability to manage those patients without burning out your staff working 12 and 15 hours a day, which is what was taking place in New York.


CALLER: Now the other thing is this that was brought up regarding masks. You know, they don't stop the -- you're getting back to the same argument that condoms don't stop AIDS. No, but they slow the transmission of AIDS. Masks slow the transmissions. The Society of Anesthesiologists since 1902 has mandated that masks, gowns, and gloves must be mandatory in hospital operation rooms. Now, would you ever go into a hospital operation, you or you advise anyone you know, where the people that are working there are not wearing those items? That's my question for you.

SCARINGI: Yeah, would I ever go into a hospital where individuals working there are not wearing masks?

CALLER: No, in an operation room. Would you ever go into as a patient? And where in the country would that be allowed?

SCARINGI: Yeah, Rich, I don't know. I don't know.

CALLER: OK, so all this stuff about masks, this is nothing but —

SCARINGI: Well, there went Rich. Sorry about that, but you know, Rich is making the alternative point that, you know what, we're going to take a brief commercial break, it's a hard break.

After the break, Scaringi elaborated on masks, saying that he is not afraid of COVID-19.

Marc Scaringi talks about masks

Marc Scaringi talks about masks
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Citation From the November 21, 2020, edition of WHP's The Marc Scaringi Show

MARC SCARINGI (HOST): And welcome back to The Marc Scaringi Show, your place on the dial for constitutional conservatism. We're talking about Secretary Levine's expanded mask mandates.

And I know we've got lots of callers on the line. So if you're a caller and you're on the line, hold on. We're going to get to you in a second here.

And we appreciate Rich from Camp Hill, your call. We didn't disconnect you. I don't know what happened there. And then we did have to hit that commercial break.

But, yeah, Rich is — he poses the question: Would I personally be comfortable going into an ER and the physicians and the personnel in the ER are not wearing masks. And the answer is, yes, I would be comfortable.

Mask wearing should be a personal choice, in my view. And the only time I wear a mask is when I'm required by these various mask mandates and the — to do so. And when I'm required by, of course, the stores and the businesses that I would need to frequent when they require me to wear it. That's the reason why I wear a mask. Whenever I am not required to do so. I do not. My personal preference is not to wear one.

I don't have a fear of COVID-19. I assume I have already contracted it. I had a long incident with what was what I thought or my family thought might have been a a severe flu or a severe coughing bit in January and early February, something that I have really never experienced before. And it was for a couple of weeks then went away. I may have had COVID-19 then. I may get it tomorrow.

But I am in a demographic group in which there is an overwhelming chance that it will have little to no effect on me. I'm like, my goodness, should I admit my age? Good lord, I am 50 years old, I regret to say so. I am. I am getting up there and we're not going to get into my weight at this point. I may be in the Donald Trump range or somewhere in that direction, but we certainly, I — if you look at all of the medical evidence of the individuals who've contracted COVID-19, I have an over 99% chance of really having little or no effect, no negative effect on my health if I contract it. So I would go into the ER, I would go into the doctor's office. I would like to have the right to do so without wearing a mask. But that doesn't appear to be the state of our commonwealth today with these mask mandates being issued from on high.

Scaringi ignores the fact that we know that masks help prevent people from spreading the coronavirus to others -- even if they are imperfect as a prophylactic. It’s great that Scaringi is not afraid of COVID-19 -- but what about literally everyone that he comes into contact with?

Aside from working on President Donald Trump’s Pennsylvania election case (Scaringi on Sunday issued a statement on the federal judge’s brutal ruling against it), Scaringi has also previously brought litigation against Pennsylvania’s COVID-19 measures.