Charlie Kirk: “Isn't it time to start indicting these mayors? I mean, they're allowed to just fight against President Trump's immigration policy.”
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From the August 14, 2025, edition of The Charlie Kirk Show, posted to Rumble
CHARLIE KIRK (HOST): This is Karen Bass fighting Trump's raids. I'm going play this and say, isn't it time to start indicting these mayors? I mean, they're allowed to just fight against President Trump's immigration policy.
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KIRK: So, again, that's not — she's, like, standing with the immigrant community fighting against — I mean, is it legal for a mayor to defy federal law enforcement?
BILL ESSAYLI (GUEST): It is not legal for a mayor to defy federal law — it is illegal for her to interfere with federal law enforcement. What they do is they try to kind of walk this line where they say, we're not going cooperate. We're not going help you, and we're just going make it very clear that we don't like you. The thing that would cross them into the criminal territory is if they took actions to actually impede or interfere with our ability to do our job. And, Charlie, if I could say — first of all, I'm not gonna talk about any investigations that we may or may not have, but this to me is a problem that is easily remedied by Congress. Sanctuary cities have been challenged in the courts, and what the courts have said is that states do not have to use their state resources to help the federal government. Now what Congress could very easily do is say, fine. You're not gonna get a penny from the federal government unless you get rid of your sanctuary policies. This is how we regulate highway speeds. That's why we have a speed limits in every state. This is why we have a drinking age of 21 in every state. That is how the federal government compels states to do things —
KIRK: Simple leverage.
ESSAYLI: Is money.
KIRK: That's right. Yes. That's right. But we are behind you. We're going do everything we can to get you confirmed under the current system. You're not gonna get confirmed unless the senate fixes this ridiculous, blue slip thing.