MSNBC contributor Hugh Hewitt lets race war fantasizer Kurt Schlichter guest host his radio show
Schlichter has used his hosting spots to promote his race war novel series, which Hewitt has gushed about
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MSNBC contributor and conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt has had conservative pundit Kurt Schlichter guest host his weekday Salem Radio Network program nine times since January. Schlichter, who writes a column for Townhall, is the author of a novel series about a second American Civil War that closely parallels an infamous white nationalist novel that inspired right-wing domestic terrorist Timothy McVeigh.
By enabling Schlichter to guest host so often, Hewitt has brought hateful trolling and far-right commentary to a radio show that, while hardly quality journalism, has earned some praise from establishment media for its supposed tone and depth.
In 2015, The Washington Post published a glowing profile of Hewitt in the leadup to a Republican presidential primary debate which he co-moderated, describing his radio show as a place where “guests can expect tough but typically fair questions that ultimately reveal not just what they think, but how they think.” It also noted that Hewitt has “a reputation for facilitating rich and respectful on-air conversations with guests” and speculated that he must host “epic” dinner parties.
Describing Hewitt as “the most influential conservative journalist in Republican presidential politics,” another 2015 profile in The Guardian called him “the thinking candidate’s Rush Limbaugh and the brain to Matt Drudge’s secretive brawn.”
In addition to hosting his radio show, Hewitt is a contributing columnist to The Washington Post and an MSNBC contributor, where he regularly joins Sunday political talk show Meet the Press. He also previously hosted his own MSNBC show which was canceled in June 2018, a month after Hewitt committed a serious breach of journalistic ethics involving then-EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt.
Hewitt’s journalistic reputation is entirely undeserved, but it’s still a far cry from Schlichter’s troll-like approach. For example, after the United States won the Women’s World Cup, Schlichter tweeted that the players “objectively suck,” claimed that team members don’t deserve equal pay because “they’re worth less,” called team captain Megan Rapinoe a “garbage person,” and explained soccer’s worldwide popularity by claiming, “Foreigners suck too.”
Schlichter is also a fiction novel author. In a March 21 article, The Bulwark’s Christian Vanderbrouk closely examined Schlichter’s “Kelly Turnbull” book series -- which is about a second American Civil War that pits liberals against conservatives -- and found disturbing similarities between material from his series and The Turner Diaries, the white nationalist novel that inspired McVeigh to attack a federal building in Oklahoma City in 1995.
As Vanderbrouk explained, Schlichter’s series incorporates a “brutal race war” into the domestic conflict, and both it and The Turner Diaries “describe a tyrannical government that takes blacks off government assistance and gives them police powers, which they use to terrorize sympathetic white characters and seize their guns.”
The parallels Vanderbrouk discovered are numerous, including similarities between the protagonists’ names (Turner and Turnbull), the use of a fertilizer bomb by the anti-government insurgents, and the fact that both books “share the same paranoia that progressive governments, aided by white collaborators, are empowering blacks to enable them to rape white women and ultimately exterminate the white race.”
Vanderbrouk also highlighted racist language in Schlichter’s novels, including a character named Do-Rag who murders white characters and a character named Skinny whose “bladder and his legs were freed from their slavery to his faraway brain when Turnbull’s rounds severed his spinal column.”
Importantly, Vanderbrouk noted that Schlichter is not promoting his novels as mere entertainment; in the foreword to one of them, he writes:
My worst fears are slowly coming true, much to my regret. The Left is using all its governmental, political, and cultural power to marginalize and repress its opponents. …
Nothing I write in People’s Republic or in this book is beyond their aspirations; in fact, my dystopian vision may well be too optimistic.
Vanderbrouk also wrote, “If you go to Schlichter’s personal Twitter account you see quite a lot of fear-mongering about political violence, white genocide, and race war,” in particular citing a tweet that promoted the white nationalist “great replacement” conspiracy theory.
Hewitt has lavished praise on Schlichter’s race war novels, saying in a blurb, “Schlichter puts a whole flight of Black Swans in the air --each of them plausible-- and the result is a riveting, page-turner, and a demand from Schlichter for...more.”
According to a review of Hewitt’s radio archive, Schlichter has guest hosted The Hugh Hewitt Show nine times this year, on January 8, February 25, February 26, February 27, February 28, March 1, March 28, April 26, and June 27. Introducing himself to Hewitt’s audience on January 8, Schlichter said he is “Hugh Hewitt’s id. I’m a little fiestier, a little more aggressive.” Although less extreme than his Twitter account or his Townhall column -- where he shares entirely different civil war fantasies that result in liberals being massacred -- Schlichter’s commentary while guest hosting Hewitt’s show has been troll-like and cruel. Some examples:
- He argued that undocumented migrant children who enter the U.S. to seek aslyum should be immediately dumped in Mexico. [Salem Radio Network, The Hugh Hewitt Show, 6/27/19]
- He attacked Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) because his “constituents seem unable to not shoot each other down in the streets.” [Salem Radio Network, The Hugh Hewitt Show, 6/27/19]
- He mockingly said that “the big kitchen table issue is the fact that transsexuals are not having their abortions paid for by normal Americans.” [Salem Radio Network, The Hugh Hewitt Show, 6/27/19]
- He said Osama bin Laden is a Democrat -- in part because he “hates America.” [Salem Radio Network, The Hugh Hewitt Show, 4/26/19]
- He said of Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-IL), “Every word she speaks makes us all dumber,” after Duckworth, who served in the U.S. Army and lost both her legs in the Iraq War, connected climate change to national security issues. [Salem Radio Network, The Hugh Hewitt Show, 3/28/19]
- He called Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) “Willie Brown’s side piece.” [Salem Radio Network, The Hugh Hewitt Show, 3/1/19]