TUCKER CARLSON (HOST): Dave, thanks so much for coming on. You moved to California because it's a beautiful place and I agree with that. You've seen it really degrade in the time that you've been there, but PG&E strikes me as almost a metaphor for the destruction of the state. So, here's the utility which doesn't really know anything about its own infrastructure but knows everything about the race of its employees. How did we get there?
DAVE RUBIN: It’s just unbelievable. I’ve been in LA right now. I live about a minute away from one of the big fires that's still going. I have friends that are evacuated. Los Angeles, putting politics aside, and Southern California might be the most beautiful part of the United States.
RUBIN: The problem right now is that everything, everything, from academia to public utilities, to politics, everything that goes woke, that buys into this ridiculous progressive ideology that cares about what contractors are LGBT or how many black firemen we have or white this or Asian that, everything that goes that road eventually breaks down.
CARLSON: That's true.
RUBIN: It is not how freedom is supposed to operate. What is supposed to happen -- Tucker, imagine if your house was on fire, would you care what the public utility or what the fire company, what contractor they brought in, what gender or sexuality or any of those things he or she was? I mean, it's just absolutely ridiculous.
CARLSON: Who would care? Who would care about something like that?
RUBIN: And right now we've got a situation – of course you wouldn't care, and we have got a situation right now where there are literally -- we are doing preemptive blackouts in this state, which I think is the 11th largest economy in the entire world, we do preemptive blackouts because they don't want to put too much power -- too much pressure on the grid. I mean, try to imagine the absurdity of what's going on here, and I hate to tell you but we just don't have enough clear thinking, say, more libertarian or conservative-minded people in California to fight what the progressives are doing to the state.
CARLSON: If you can’t keep the lights on and you can't keep the place from burning down, you've reached the point where there is no kind of lying about it anymore. Like it's falling apart. It's a disaster. It's not civilized anymore.