From the March 30 edition of CNN's The Van Jones Show:
VAN JONES (HOST): It's very alarming to me to see, I thought, at the highest levels, even, you know, anchors at Fox speaking that way. Does it alarm you?
DEREK BLACK (FORMER WHITE NATIONALIST): Yeah. It's really, really alarming that my family watches Tucker Carlson's show once and then watches it on the replay because they feel that he is making the white nationalist talking points better than they have and they're trying to get some tips on how to advance it.