STEVE BANNON (HOST): How do you address an issue if you can't have a actual conversation and debate? These are not technically vaccines, right? The first ones are -- they're experimental gene therapies. Every scientist I've talked to admits that and here, why can't you even -- and I'm not an anti-vaxxer. We are the ones, and look, this show is specialized in whether you think it's a bioweapon from the Wuhan lab that either they let out on purpose or inadvertently escaped, or if you think it's a total hoax. We've tried to have the spectrum of people on here.
But in this discussion about the vaccine -- because here is what they are going to do. This is the information warfare about that. They are going to get to a part -- a point very quickly [where] if you don't have the vaccine, you're not going to get the vaccine passport. In other words, you're not going to be able to get on a plane, you're not going to be able to get on public transportation, basically, you're not going to be able to hold a job, OK?
And yet they don't want any debate whatsoever. Not from people that are anti-vaxxers, but people that just have legitimate -- hey, can you walk me through this again? What phase of this is really in testing? It's got emergency authorized use by the FDA, but where do we stand in this? What are the ultimate outcomes? Five nations of Europe, correct me if I'm wrong, Ireland being the first, have now banned or put on temporary hold, Raheem? One of the ones.
Alexandra, as comms director -- you can't even have a discussion of mentioning vaccine when all of a sudden you're banned from everywhere and you're an anti-vaxxer.
When you talk about this vaccine, if you mention it, it's high church -- it's like medieval theology, you're automatically excommunicated.