ED HENRY (HOST): Lara, great to have you this morning. I wanted to start with this breaking news overnight that it appears – and there you are; you popped up for us. It's so great to see you – The Daily Mail has a very interesting story that's saying that Vladimir Putin essentially may be running out of bullets, that it might have a week and a half, two weeks max. He's losing warplanes, tanks, all the rest of it. He obviously went into this thinking he was gonna bulldoze his way through Ukraine. He's obviously caused a lot of destruction, don't want to minimize the fact there's over 2 million refugees. But this has not gone as well as Vladimir Putin expected.
LARA LOGAN (FOX NATION HOST): I don't buy it for a second, and I'll be honest with you. I really think that there's so much misinformation. We've never really seen anything like it. I mean, I've been covering wars now for 35 years. And I have never seen people with their nails done in the Ukrainian flag. Right? I mean, we're being corralled into this box where we either have to hate the Vladimir Putin and believe everything evil that's said about him, and love Ukraine, and there's no in between. And that reminds me a lot of you're either, you know, a white supremacist or you go with the Democrat narrative on everything under the sun.
So Vladimir Putin knew exactly what he was doing when he went into Ukraine. The Russian military isn't perfect. They — for example, I've spoken to multiple defense specialists and intelligence specialists from a defense intelligence agency who've studied the Russian military for years. They do have difficulty mounting complex air operations because they do very little training hours in comparison to, for example, the United States. Air assets right now, fighter jet pilots, but Russia is not struggling.
What Russia has done from the very beginning has been very strategic. They didn't go straight to Kyiv. They went to all those bioweapons laboratories that are scattered all over the country. Some of them they built. So they know where they are. They've known where they are since the Soviet Union, because under the defense threat reduction program, we went in after the fall of the Soviet Union, and supposedly they turned those facilities from bioweapons labs into public health labs. Although, you know, these days, it's hard to believe anything that our leaders tell us because they've lied about COVID. They lied about Russia collusion. They lied about the Ukraine impeachment trial.
And there's so much more going on in Ukraine that nobody is talking about. You see such dishonesty when it comes to the history of Ukraine. You see dishonesty when it comes to the Azov Battalion, which is funded by the U.S. and NATO. I mean, you can find pictures of them online holding up the NATO flag and the swastika. And at the same time, their own emblem contains the black sun of the occult, which was a Nazi SS emblem. And it also contains the sideways, you know, lightning insignia of the SS. I mean, this is on throughout the Ukrainian military you can see that black sun of the occult on their body armor, even on the female soldiers who are paraded in front of the world as being, you know, such an example of Ukraine's independence and spirit and nobility. Even they are wearing the black sun of the occult. And, you know, we want — the White House wants you to believe, well, this doesn't matter; it's just a small number of troops. It's not true. The Azov Battalion has been murdering its way through eastern Ukraine.
LOGAN: We don't want to admit this. This was why Crimea voted for independence. This is why Crimea wanted to be with Russia.
LOGAN: Because we in the media, in the western media and in the west, won't acknowledge the reality of what's gone on: Western Ukraine backed the Nazis. It was a headquarters for the Nazis SS. The CIA under Allen Dulles actually gave immunity from prosecution to the Nazis of Ukraine from the Nuremberg trials. So there's a long history of the United States and our intelligence agencies funding and arming Nazis in Ukraine. These are not, like, new neo-Nazi groups that sprung up. These are the actual Nazis. From the second World War who, if you go back to the Nuremberg trials, said that they were planning for a thousand-year reich. And so you have to really wonder as you look at this, when you know that the CIA sponsored the color revolution in Ukraine in 2013 and '14, that they selected Ukraine's leaders; go to Victoria Nuland's leaked phone conversation where she and the U.S. ambassador are deciding who can lead Ukraine.
LOGAN: I mean, there's as much interference here as you could possibly imagine, before we even get to Hunter Biden, Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, and Mitt Romney and all of their children who are employed — who earn millions — from Ukrainian gas companies.
HENRY: Yeah. You are pointing, pardon me, to a real credibility crisis for our leaders. I'm going to let Karyn Turk jump in.
KARYN TURK (CO-HOST): Yeah. I wanted to bring up the fact that President Zelensky is Jewish and I don't know exactly how this factors in, but there's some very interesting points in what you're saying. And looking at this, you know, you could think it's political theatrics. You, you know, made a very good point at the beginning that you think that Putin is in control. And I actually wanna play something that Jen Psaki said because seems that the White House is actually echoing that sentiment. Watch this.
TURK: He's determining what this looks like. And I think that's a lot of what you said, Lara. I'd love to get your thoughts on that, what you just watched.
LOGAN: What troubles me about the moment that we're in is that we have such a selective and a narrow reading of history. You know, President Zelensky may be Jewish, but he's not the only one in this who suffered during the second world war, whose ancestors suffered, right? I mean, look at Putin — how many relatives did he lose in the siege of St. Petersburg? People don't know their history. They don't know what made Vladimir Putin. And I'm not a defend – you know, I'm am not defending him. I don't need to defend Vladimir Putin. My job as a journalist is to try to understand, what is the truth here?
I don't like being lied to. And we're being lied to on an epic scale. When we're told your only choices, you have to be a hundred percent with Zelensky, who's a puppet who you can find on the internet in black stilletos and leather pants, you know, shirtless, doing a spoof Dancing With The Stars kind of entertainment video that's a mock of a Ukrainian group that does this kind of satanic, occult type of music video.
And I mean, Zelensky was selected, like so many of our leaders. And honestly, with big tech and with election fraud these days, we don't know how many leaders all around the world have been selected for us and weren't actually voted in.
LOGAN: But what we do know is that there are increasing problems with technology and the digitization of our world. Because look at what's happening with COVID. Look at what has happened globally. We are fighting the same battles all over the world. To pretend that this war is about Russia and Ukraine is just a bare-faced lie.
LOGAN: If Putin has been warning for 15 years that he is not going to stand by while the globalists take over the world, build bioweapons facilities, and whatever else they're doing in Ukraine, Ukrainian oligarchs. Ukraine has been a center of money laundering for, you know, many of the leaders in this country for how long? Billions of U.S. dollars have been laundered through Ukraine and we say nothing about it. These are our tax dollars.
I mean, before the impeachment trial had you ever heard of anyone in the United States, I mean, us bringing in foreign governments to the White House for anti-corruption training. I mean, does nobody question these things? Why do we not question them?
HENRY: Well, Lara –
LOGAN: We have an idiot, like Lt. Col. Vindman, who goes at the impeachment trial and sits there as a lieutenant colonel. He didn't even make colonel, and he's telling the president of the United States what his policy should be? You have a traitor in the former of Marie Yovanovitch, who was Obama's ambassador, who's telling Ukrainian government officials, don't listen to the will of the American people, don't listen to the election result. We are the true leaders of America. I mean, and then people object when the woman isn't even fired, She's given a cushy job for life at Georgetown University at the expense of the U.S. taxpayer and we're told that the president of the United States cannot say to his foreign counterparts, you know, that we want you to look into something, but Joe Biden can withhold as much aid as he wants to.
HENRY: I got it.
LOGAN: I mean, there's so much hypocrisy and dishonesty here and Ukraine is at the center of it all.
HENRY: Well –
LOGAN: Go back to Russia collusion. Go to Alexandra Chalupa, go to Eric Ciaramella, the whistleblower who went to work for Adam Schiff, who wasn't really a whistleblower, and all those corrupt people in the deep state. And you know what, the deep state isn't a theory. It's not a conspiracy theory. It's an actual deep state. Look at the SES, the senior executive service, because when that bureaucracy was ushered into law in the United States of America, that's when we got a bunch of unelected bureaucrats pulling the strings behind the scenes. And these are the people that keep lying to us.
HENRY: Lara? Absolutely. And pardon me, We've got a livechat where we're streaming on GETTR, for example, and I'm watching it as you're talking. People are talking about how you're dropping truth bombs and you're a real journalist, and I know that, having worked alongside you for many, many years when you're at CBS and many other places. And maybe they didn't want to hear the truth but you're dropping those truth bombs now.