STEVE BANNON (HOST): Rudy, you're now involved in this lawsuit. You actually are welcoming it, you're saying that'll give you discovery, obviously, it'll work its way through the courts; there are other people saying they have no right to kind of sue you because it's all in the public process of hearings and all that. Just -- people want to know, we've got a lot to cover and not a lot of time, are you actively going to fight this lawsuit?
RUDY GIULIANI: Sure, I am. I'm going to -- I'm going to fight it on legal grounds but I'll also show -- you know, I used to do defamation law for ten years, for the Wall Street Journal, Barron's, the New York Daily News, kind of one of my specialties, so I get two defenses, right? Part of it -- part of what they're saying is I profited because of my podcast and my radio show. So I'm a reporter, so Times against Sullivan applies. They would have to show that not only did I say something false but I absolutely knew it was false.