Newsmax host: “I think that the end of apartheid in South Africa is going to end up being a liability”
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From the May 14, 2025, edition of Newsmax's Rob Schmitt Tonight
ROB SCHMITT (HOST): A major political party is calling for killing all the white people in the country. This is what asylum is. We have seen thousands of attacks on these people. Your thoughts?
VICTOR DAVIS HANSON (GUEST): Yeah. It is. And most of the people who were among the ten thousand who came in were not refugees over the last four years. So — and then, you know, ever since the Hart-Celler Act of 1965 that Ted Kennedy helped push through, we've had almost no immigration from Europeans or the former British Commonwealth. They've been mostly people from Latin America, Africa, and China, which is fine. But we've got so acculturated to the idea that so-called white people will not be immigrating to the United States, that we've created this — I don't know what you call it, a covert racism and that gets explicit when it when it actually is actualized. And most of these people who are coming from South Africa were born after the end of apartheid. I mean, we're talking about forty, thirty years ago. And most of them, you know, it's — this idea of collective guilt that every single person there was a member of a racist society is not true. And it's a new South Africa. They passed a law, and as we know last year that said that the government could appropriate farmland without compensation. And then everybody in the West on the left said, well, they're only going to do it for public purposes, but public purposes could cover almost anything. Ss they — and I think what South Africa is looking at is they're looking at Zimbabwe, Rhodesia where they expropriated the land and it went from one of the greatest food exporter per acre in the world —
SCHMITT: To famine.
HANSON: Starving.
SCHMITT: Yeah, to starving.
HANSON: Yeah.
SCHMITT: And that's exactly the point. Zimbabwe is — that's 25 years ago. They can't even look that far to see it. The politicians don't understand. I think that the end of apartheid in South Africa is going to end up being a liability. The irony of that for the country. But do you think that the — do you think that the white farmers are largely going to flee the country? Because if that happens, the country collapses?
HANSON: Most of them have been there nine and ten generations. They have been there then the majority of the population that came in, you know, from other countries that were not white. They've been there since the 17th century.
SCHMITT: Right.
HANSON: And I don't think nine generations, a lot of them are not going to leave. They're going to stay to the bitter end. But some of them that are younger probably will that are not tied to the land or they don't own farms or they're in businesses because it's — let's be honest, we went from white racist apartheid to Black racism in South Africa. And everybody knows it's true. And when Don Lemon and the people on The View talk like they do and somebody hears them, they have no idea how they sound, but they sound like utter racists. He's angry because of the color of the skin, of the people who are threatened. And he didn't say a word when 10,000 people came in because they weren't white. So he's a racist and he knows he is. So are the people in The View that have commented on this. I think it's incumbent upon everybody to tell the truth and say that these people are racists.
SCHMITT: Yeah they are. They're just allowed to be — that's the difference. They're allowed to be.