MSNBC's Buchanan Stands By His Bigoted Remarks About Homosexuality

“That Kind of Conduct Should Be Discouraged In a Good Society, In A Healthy Society, And It Used To Be Discouraged” ... “We Saw Things Like” Gay Marriage “At The End Of The Weimar Republic”

From the October 25 edition of NPR's The Diane Rehm Show:

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Pat Buchanan's History Of Anti-LGBT Bigotry


REHM: And another question. “You've written in your columns of homosexuality, that in a healthy society, it will be contained, segregated, controlled, and stigmatized. You've also called homosexuality a disorder that can be handled with therapy. Do you still stand by those statements?”

BUCHANAN: Well, the statement that homosexuality is disordered is a statement from Pope Benedict in Rome, as well. It's the view of the Catholic Church.

REHM: And you accept that?

BUCHANAN: Well, I believe that homosexuality is -- that it is unnatural activity. Unnatural and immoral. I realize individuals are maybe born -- nature or nurture, I don't know what it is -- I assume nobody actually gets to be 13 or 14 and suddenly chooses this. But I do think -- and people may not be able to control their orientation -- but I do believe as a Catholic that people can control their conduct. And that is where I think, I would say, that kind of conduct should be discouraged in a good society, in a healthy society. And it used to be discouraged. And I do think that the idea that men can marry men and women marry women in the USA is a sign of a civilization in its final throes. I mean, we saw things like this at the end of the Weimar Republic. Things like this at the end of the Roman Empire. And they are attendant to a declining nation and a declining civilization.

REHM: So if you were in charge somehow, you would outlaw these behaviors?

BUCHANAN: No, I would -- I think the way we did it for 200 years in this country, this great melting pot country -- was we left it to the states to decide. And that's what I would do.

REHM: Leave it to the states to --

BUCHANAN: Yeah, I disagreed with the Supreme Court decision. Was it Lawrence, I believe was the name of the Supreme Court decision that struck down seventeen state laws? I disagreed with that decision and I agreed with Judge Scalia's dissent.