Daily Wire host on adult victims of Jeffrey Epstein: “You're not necessarily a victim”

Michael Knowles: “The vast, vast majority of these women, they're just hookers threatening to reveal the names of their johns”

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From the September 4, 2025, edition of The Daily Wire's The Michael Knowles Show

MICHAEL KNOWLES (HOST): The Department of Justice says there were one thousand victims of Jeffrey Epstein's abuse. But as I just mentioned, there are two very different groups.

There were the underage girls, girls who were underage. Some of the girls were 16. At least one of the girls was was as young as 14. That's bad. That's what has people's attention and ire. According to the Department of Justice, of the one thousand victims of Epstein, 36 of them were underage. That's the highest number I can find — from a credible source or a somewhat credible. So DOJ is not the most credible, I guess, but, you know, in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king. That means that one thousand or more of the so-called Jeffrey Epstein victims were not underage. They were young women. Could have been in their 20s, could have not they were — they were young. They weren't in their 40s. I don't think it was Epstein's type exactly. But they also weren't 17 or 16, and they certainly weren't five. They were young women. So in that case they were prostitutes who were hired to do a job. They were not groomed as children. They were not underage. Their prostitution is still illegal, at least in some parts of this country, but that's very different to me. 

And I also think it's offensive to the underage victims of Jeffrey Epstein's grooming to describe themselves as victims. I mean, I guess we're all victims when we engage in sin in any way. But if you're 25 years-old and you're taking money from a rich guy to have sex with him, you're a hooker, and that's bad. You should not be a hooker. You should go do something else. But you're not necessarily a victim. You're certainly not a victim in the way that a 16 year-old girl would be.

And in that case, it's — for, apparently, the vast majority of these women, like, the vast, vast majority of these women, they're just hookers threatening to reveal the names of their johns, which again is, like, fine. OK. You know, that's justice, I guess. But it's a very, very different thing than what is is presented as the Epstein story. I want justice for the kids, for the underage people. I want justice as a geopolitical matter to figure out which intelligence agencies, if any, were involved in this, which states, if any, were involved. And that's what I'm interested in. But if it's a bunch of, like, hookers who did sex work at the age of 25 and then came to regret it, and now they want revenge and are claiming to be total victims, having no agency in the whole to me, that's that just is a replay of the Me Too era and I don't really want anything to do with that. I don't really see what political motive or grand cause of justice is served by that.