Megyn Kelly Show guest: Comparing rhetoric of Trump officials to Nazis will give Nazism “a good name”
Walter Kirn: Young people “will end up embracing it, frankly”
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Walter Kirn on The Megyn Kelly Show
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From the December 8, 2025, edition of SiriusXM's The Megyn Kelly Show
MEGYN KELLY (HOST): Ilhan Omar, I mentioned it when we opened the show, is out there not apologizing for what happened in her community that she represents that bilt all of us out of billions of dollars, but instead talking about how Stephen Miller is a Nazi. Here she is in SOT 3.
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MARGARET BRENNAN (CBS): I want to ask you about something else that the architect of the president's immigration policy, Stephen Miller, said. On Thanksgiving Day, he posted, “No magic transformation occurs when failed states cross borders. At scale, migrants and their descendants recreate the conditions and terrors of their broken homelands." What do you make of this argument of failure to assimilate and sort of ruining America? How do you understand this?
REP. ILHAN OMAR (D-MN): I mean, when I think about Stephen Miller and his white supremacist rhetoric, it reminds me -- it reminds me of the way the Nazis described Jewish people, in Germany.
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KELLY: Margaret Brennan was fine with that.
WALTER KIRN (GUEST): It might be the way that you describe Jewish people.
KELLY: Yeah. Exactly. She's like -- OK.
KIRN: She's full -- she's as full of ethnic hatred. She's as full of group hatred as anyone I've ever seen. I guess she would know it in others, or maybe she's projecting. What these people want us to believe about our leadership is very simple, that they are motivated by deep, visceral, mythological hatred rather than very obvious human motives, like give me back my stuff, or don't ruin my neighborhood, or don't burn down my city.
KELLY: Don't steal from me.
KIRN: Right. You don't have -- in science, you don't have to look for the cause that's so remote, it's out among the stars. You can look at the thing that's in front of you, which is a city full of crime, full of crime that didn't used to exist, full of neighborhoods that still haven't been rebuilt after the George Floyd riots. A city where people are afraid to go downtown to the giant corporate ballparks that they had to pay for partly with their tax money, but are now too unsafe to visit.
Oh, racism, Nazism -- you're going to end up giving those things a good name, because if young people think that not wanting to be hurt, not wanting to be robbed, not wanting to have all your money taken, not wanting, you know, this kind of social disorder is Nazism, then they'll end up embracing it, frankly. The problem here is that name-calling as a response to massive destruction in the tens of billions of dollars and in crime statistics and everything -- why are we still allowing it? Why are we still --
KELLY: Yeah, right.
KIRN: Why is it -- why is a network person still allowing the conversation to be about that?
KELLY: That's right, Margaret. Margaret Brennan sat there and let her smear Stephen Miller as a white supremacist --
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KIRN: She set her up for it, in fact.
KELLY: -- as though it were a fact because clearly she agrees. I don't really give a shit whether Margaret Brennan agrees or not. Her job when he is not there is to push back on that kind of rhetoric or you get sued. At a bare minimum, it is unfair and unethical to allow.
But she did it because, I guarantee you, she agrees with it.