From the December 4, 2025, edition of Louder with Crowder, streamed on YouTube and Rumble

STEVEN CROWDER (HOST): I agree, by the way, industrialization, right, is good. We went through that in America quite a bit before Russia. The reason they had to play catch up is, because it was an awful place, and they had to do it by force. So my question is, am I mischaracterizing, and I, everything that I ask is genuine here because I'm trying to see where we disagree.

Because I think Stalin is a fascinating historical character. You're talking to a guy ,we did the great Dic-off where we did brackets for three days of Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao. Funniest one was Papa Doc in Haiti because he sucked, Pinochet, who wasn't all wrong. And we were very clear about this, and I think Mao ended up winning. Might have been Pol Pot, though the number wasn't as high, but he was just, really dumb and really brutal, which is a bad combination.