From the September 8, 2024, edition of MSNBC's Ayman 

AYMAN MOHYELDIN (HOST): To Spencer's point, which is really important, the dehumanization, that's the part. It's one thing that the dehumanization is happening, but what we have seen time and time again and what studies have shown us time and time again is that dehumanization, this kind of vitriolic rhetoric, leads to violence. Trans, members of the trans community, as we've seen, they've been victims of violent crimes on the rise more and more so. Just this week there was a trans teen in Massachusetts who was assaulted and seriously injured by a group of as many as 20 to 30 of his peers. That's a real concern. This is not just political discourse to win votes. This has real life consequences on innocent trans victims.

CHASE STRANGIO (ACLU DEPUTY DIRECTOR): Yeah, what we're seeing is taking the societal political problems and finding a marginalized community and blaming that community. Trans people are being blamed for structural violence. Trans people are being blamed for things as ridiculous to be blamed for as school shootings, and yet that type of rhetoric leads to people enacting individual violence against the trans community. Project 2025 doesn't just mention LGBTQ people, the entire framework criminalizes LGBTQ identities by deeming being trans pornographic and then deeming pornography criminal. And so this is a whole structural framework for society that casts LGBTQ people as a type of deviance to be controlled and punished. And then what we see are kids being bullied in school, then what we see are people being attacked and murdered on the street.