JOE SCARBOROUGH (CO-HOST): I can't tell you how many progressives or how many liberals will say things privately or quietly, let's take the Penn swimmer that transitioned. And they say, "I don’t think young women should have to compete against somebody who transitioned after puberty and it’s just not fair," and I said well, why don’t you write a column? "Oh, I can’t write a column about that." I go, well, but you believe — and so I found a Pew Poll where 82% of Americans, 82% of Americans don't believe that men who transition post-puberty should be able to compete against women in sports. 82%. And yet if you have that conversation on television, in news, if you write an op-ed about it, suddenly you hate and you're a hater, and so we just don’t have the conversation despite the fact that the international sports association, I think, came to the same conclusion that 82% of Americans made. Now I’m not saying that 82% of Americans think it that it’s right or that it’s wrong, but I suggest that maybe we ought to be able to have that debate on television without people being scared for their jobs. I’m not saying that people would lose their jobs, see what I have to do here? I’m just saying we have to be able to debate issues like this, and other issues that might make us uncomfortable.