BRIAN KILMEADE (CO-HOST): Now the rescue package. Farmers are the backbone of America and essential workers through the pandemic. We know that. But $4 billion set aside for them in the relief bill is only for farmers who are not white. How did this become a race issue? Georgia farmer Darrell Kay is being excluded, and he wants to know why money isn't going to everyone who needs it. Darrell, how shocked were you to find that the color of your skin would be working against you when it came to your job?
DARRELL KAY (OWNER, KAY FARMS): Well, it was pretty disappointing. I thought all farmers would be treated equally.
KILMEADE: What this package has includes an estimated $4 billion to pay up to 120%, of Black, Hispanic, Asian, or Native American farmers outstanding debt as of January 1. So right here -- I guess it’s a form of reparations. Were, in your estimation, minority farmers being discriminated against?
KAY: Yes. Well, I'm not a racist person to start off with, but I don't think it's -- I've worked all my life and worked very hard to get where I'm at, and I didn't get no breaks like that. I don't think that they should get breaks like that, not saying they don't deserve it, [UNINTELLIGIBLE] but to just wipe out their debt, debt-free, that's not right.
KILMEADE: You have debt?
KAY: Do I what?
KILMEADE: Do you have debt to run your farm? Do you have to work your business in debt?
DARRELL KAY: No, no I'm not in debt.
KAY: So thank goodness, I worked myself out of debt. So I think everybody should work themselves out of debt. That make[s] people appreciate what they're doing better. And they don't need to just do -- you know, they targeted just the Blacks and I don't think it's right. I don't think they should do away with their debts. I mean, I'm not saying they need to take their farms away from them by no means but just don't do away with their debt.
KILMEADE: Yeah, the racial justice -- the racial justice element of the bill was spearheaded by new Georgia Democrat Raphael Warnock. Less than 2% of U.S. farms were run by Black Americans as of 2017. Is that about the ratio you see it when you have group meetings or get together in associations?
DARRELL KAY: Yes, probably, in our area there's not -- our little pocket up here in north Georgia there's not Black farmers. There used to be and they was treated just like we are. But they one and done passed away and the kids didn't want to do it. So it's -- they're not in our area but there are probably about 2% farmers, Black farmers in America.