BERNIE KERIK (FORMER NYPD COMMISSIONER): I guess first off, the videos that I've seen so far, I've seen some bystander videos that were people in that parking lot took. You see confrontation, you see the subject target fighting with the cops, assaulting the cops, resisting arrest. You then see him with a taser in his hand. He runs and at some point after that he is shot.
Last night Steve on Fox, I heard the attorneys for the deceased family talk about those cops and how if they had stopped a white guy that they would've been easier or nicer. The inference was they harassed this guy because he was Black. That was the inference.
However, today the body cam was released to the press and to the public. And I urge everybody, I urge everyone to look at the body cam. Those cops couldn't have been more calm, they couldn't have been more professional, they couldn't have been more at ease. They were polite. They were courteous. They did everything they could possibly do by the book right up until the time they gave him a sobriety test and determined that he was -- that he had drank too much to be driving and informed him he was being placed under arrest.
And the second they went to arrest him and put him in handcuffs, he began resisting, and that -- that is a big part of this problem. And that's been a big part of many of these events that we see like this. You know, you cannot assault a police officer. You cannot attack them. You cannot resist arrest. These are things that are illegal. At some point, he disarms the cop from his taser, fires or attempts to fire the taser at the cop at which time he is shot. That's what I have seen based on the videos I watched so far.
KERIK: People have to step back and they have to look at what the job is of police departments in their communities. They have to look at those communities and the people that are in them, and look at the incidents individually, every one of them. Like I said last night and I started to say now, you know, I think the general public forgets you can't attack or assault a cop. You can't resist arrest. You can't obstruct or interfere with somebody else's arrest. You can't run from the police. You can't hit them with your car. You can't take their gun or their taser or their nightstick and try to beat them with it because they're going to respond with force and then, 95 -- 99% of these incidents, they come out of resisting arrest. The officers are effecting a legal arrest and the subjects resists. And on that point, officers have to respond. And sometimes the suspect gets hurt, and unfortunately, sometimes they get killed. But at the end of the day, 95% of these incidents would not happen if the suspect did what he was told by the cops.
KERIK: I think everybody has to understand every single one of these incidents, every single one is different. Every one is different. In that situation last night, people have said that a taser is not a deadly weapon. It's not deadly force. Except there's a problem: When you take a police officer's weapon and you attempt to destabilize him or to incapacitate him, especially with the taser, if you hit a cop with a taser it's going to knock him down, it's going to put him in a position where he can't respond and he has a sidearm on. So he has two choices: He can let you hit him with that taser and the possibilities is then you go to get his gun or he could take you down. And in this case, I'm sure that's what the officers did. But you know what Steve, we shouldn't be talking about this, this should be a grand jury. This should be a real investigation. All this stuff that everybody is speculating right now, that's what investigations are for. You know, and you have the mayor fires them, no due process. You have the prosecutor who did the same thing to a bunch of cops two weeks ago, most of those six cops, five of those six cops were Black, fired, everybody got fired, people got charged criminally, I don't know what's going on in Atlanta and how they operate, but you know what, you got to do investigations. You've got to take -- you've got to give the cops the benefit of the doubt until the investigation is concluded, or you''re going to lose your police force.