MARTHA MACCALLUM (HOST): So, Brit Hume says, and he knows all, of course, he has been around a long time, he says, you know, the media has no responsibility to keep this person’s name under wraps if we learn it and can confirm it.
CHARLIE KIRK (FOUNDER, TURNING POINT USA): The whistleblower triggered this entire thing, and the more information we know about this individual, who we believe it to be, it's a highly politically motivated individual. It's more like a Democrat operative than an actual whistleblower. This person worked with [Rep.] Adam Schiff and then Schiff lied about it, had connections to Biden, might have even went to Ukraine with Joe Biden and worked on the Ukraine-Russia desk.
But look, more broadly, Richard is correct in one sense, that there shouldn’t be retaliation against whistleblowers, but we’re talking about the impeachment of the president of United States, and he plays not just an important, but a critical role in how this entire thing got started. What conversations did he have?
What were his motivations? What communications, what meetings? When you are being accused of something as high as high crimes and misdemeanors, you have the right to face your accusers, due process. These are things that the president and his team are not being afforded right now, and it's a double standard process as Mark Levin said earlier on the show.
RICHARD FOWLER: Charlie, what you can’t get away with is making up things that aren’t actually facts. Look, we do not know if this whistleblower went on a trip with Joe Biden. We do not know if this whistleblower was a Democratic operative. So you can’t tell the American people these things and say they’re facts, because we don’t know this. Here’s what we do know. We do know that this --
MACCALLUM: Charlie Kirk has this person in mind. We’re not reporting any person’s name.
FOWLER: Yeah, because --
MACCALLUM: We have not confirmed anybody. There’s more than one person out there who people think this could be --
KIRK: I prefaced who the -- who is suspected. I made the correct preface.
MACCALLUM: That’s fine.