LOU DOBBS: Two channels, he said, for policy making with the Ukraine. One regular, one irregular. So what's the big deal?
SIDNEY POWELL (ATTORNEY FOR GEN. MIKE FLYNN): I don't think there is a big deal, Lou, other than the Democrats keep trying to make things up as they go and make them sound bad when nothing is wrong. The president has every right to use whatever means he can to get things accomplished in Ukraine as long as it's lawful. And there's nothing that requires him to follow traditional practices and going through corrupt government agencies to do it.
DOBBS: Don't you find it a bit shocking that the irregular channel that he was referring to was the European Union Ambassador Gordon Sondland, the former special envoy to Ukraine Kurt Volker, and the president's attorney Rudy Giuliani. I mean, really? This is a man who is high-bound for protocol, my goodness.
For God's sake, Sydney. I mean this is such clumsy nonsense on the part of the radical left. They can't even understand, begin to understand that truth matters here.
POWELL: No they're absolutely grasping for straws, Lou. There's nothing that they're doing that makes any sense. There's been corruption in Ukraine for a long time that the president is hoping to root out along with everything else, and of course that's where the Crowdstrike computer operation is based that was running the server and is implicated in all of the Spygate mess. There's a lot to uncover there.