LAURA INGRAHAM (HOST): It's easy to kind of be upset and angry about their political Islamist approach to these issues, both of you. And it's kind of instinctive for me, I just want to defend Israel. But you're right, they could be, Dr. Ahmed, they could be change agents for the good. They could be.
QANTA AHMED: They could be -- they could be, if they were pluralist Muslims, if they knew what was in the Quran, where we recognize Jews, where we recognize the sanctity of Moses, the holiness of the Torah -- but they're not.
They are using Islamist tactics to invert reality.
What they are seeking -- they have a grotesque Holocaust envy, and just hear me out on that. Islamists envy what they see as a special mark upon the Jewish people that is the membership of genocide. It's a terrible thing that befell the Jewish people, but Islamists envy it.
They want to take over and appear the most persecuted, the most victimized, the most disadvantaged while they deny the holocaust, while they deny the existence of Israel. This is why you are seeing this, there is nothing genuine about these politicians. I don't care whether they were Democrats or Republicans. The question is, where is the speaker of the House?
Where is the Speaker Pelosi to not just reprimand them and silence and marginalize them? That's what I'm upset about.