LAURA INGRAHAM (HOST): And last week, Dr. Oskoui, Sen. Rand Paul, he argued, as many others have, that the virus has slowed in part, in parts of the country because of T-cell immunity. But here's how Dr. Fauci responded.
DR. ANTHONY FAUCI: New York, it's about 22 percent. If you believe 22 percent is herd immunity, I believe you're alone in that.
INGRAHAM (HOST): And in -- The New York Times reported that Fauci said in a later interview that he knew of no scientific evidence that the common cold-derived T-cells protect against infection with COVID. Dr. Oskoui, that's T-cell immunity. Apparently, he doesn't read any of the medical literature that you and I and the medicine cabinet have been talking about on air for months now. Can you explain any of this? What does this mean? Why is he saying this?
DR. RAMIN OSKOUI (GUEST): I think there are two facets. First of all, there is significant literature that shows that there's T-cell immunity, not just COVID, but cross-immunity with other common coronaviruses. In fact, very importantly, Johnson & Johnson's vaccine, if you read their preprint, they very specifically test for T-cell immunity and that's one of the reasons why it's probably one of the leading vaccines.