HARRIS FAULKNER (HOST): Where are we right now where Christmas gets under attack, the trees, everything. I mean it is such a signal, Richard, because if they'll set that tree on fire, imagine what they will do to human beings who are walking around. Well, we're finding out. The stabbings are off the charts in New York.
RICHARD GOODSTEIN (DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST): To your point, to your point, if Fox would put as much energy into decrying the anti-vaxxers -- we now have 800,000 people dead and one tree that's destroyed. I don't think there is kind of a lack of kind of symmetry there. And I think that's where the energy should go.
HARRIS FAULKNER: All right, well first of all you don't have your facts straight because many of us talk about being vaxxed, boostered, all of that --
GOODSTEIN: And many don't.
FAULKNER: In the realm of reporting on the entire subject. We also talk about natural antibodies. We talk about all of it. So if you want to point a finger and call somebody anti-vax, you got to get your facts straight.