GLENN BECK (HOST): So, let me re-ask, Kevin, just to clarify. I'm talking about things like shutting down the Department of Education.
KEVIN ROBERTS (GUEST): Yes.
BECK: Are you guys talking about those kinds of things?
ROBERTS: Oh, we're not just talking about it. We have the plan. In fact, literally sitting on my desk is the draft of that plan. And I'll be doing -- reading through that today. And so, let me be really, really blunt. We will eliminate the Department of Education piece by piece, block by block. It has to be part of the next administration in the first term. We also, as I know is a big interest of yours, going to up end the Department of Justice. And our plan for the Federal Bureau of Investigation is to select-all delete and start from scratch.
ROBERTS: That gives you a sense of the vigor of this plan.
BECK: So, is this going to be something that will be able to be adopted, and talked about and given to people so they can say, hold the president, whoever it's going to be accountable and say, we want you to do this if you win?
ROBERTS: Absolutely. In fact, Glenn, historically, what Heritage and the conservative movement have done is issue this plan sometime after Election Day --
ROBERTS: Which is -- which. I mean, it was better than nothing, but --
ROBERTS: We're two years ahead. And so, the very reason that we're issuing this plan or parts of the plan in April of this year is precisely so that two things can happen. Number one, Americans, everyday Americans can be part of this and talking about it, asking people who want to be their elected officials about it. But secondly, to the heart of your question, when we start having debates among the Republican presidential aspirants, they're talking about that plan. It -- the plan becomes the very reason that we, as Republicans, will nominate someone.