ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR. (GUEST): It's surreal. My polling numbers are better than Ron DeSantis and/or any other candidate except for Biden and Trump. But I'm -- you know, even when they talk about me on the DNC channels on CNN and MSNBC, they always refer to me, my first name as “long shot candidate." Whereas everybody else has a candidacy that is taken seriously.
MARTHA MACCALLUM (ANCHOR): And that's when they're being nice.
KENNEDY: I'm not allowed on CNN or MSNBC at all. And all the Republican candidates can go on there. Jake Tapper has said publicly that he will not do a town hall for me, even though he's done them with Nikki Haley and with Ron DeSantis. So, it's surreal.
MACCALLUM: So there you are, you know, sort of waving your arms going, “Hey, what about me?" And they refuse to talk to you. You say that they call you “long shot." When they don't call you “long shot," they call you “conspiracy theorist." So, you know, there appears to be a very coordinated effort against your candidacy. So how do you break through that? I mean, what's your strategy? How do you break through that?
KENNEDY: Well, I mean, the way I break through it is what I'm doing. As I said, my favorability numbers are now better, far better than President Trump's or President Biden's. So the strategy that we're employing is actually working and that is to do a lot of long-form interviews on podcasts, to come on this network, which does allow me on. You guys have been very, very generous.