LAURA INGRAHAM (HOST): I did think it was odd that Nikki Haley has done so much to say, you know, I'm strong, I'm standing on my own two feet, my record speaks for itself, and I get that, but then also playing the gender card a little bit, and to me those two things don't really comport.
CHARLIE HURT (GUEST): No, it doesn't work at all. And as you said earlier, the whole point of what conservatives have -- the whole complaint about identity politics and that kind of political maneuvering is that it's not based on ideas and arguments. It's not about values and, you know, it's about something else. It's ridiculous. It's stupid. You know, and whatever Vivek, you know, whether or not he shatters expectations in Iowa or not, I don't think you can take away from the fact that he has been a tremendously illuminating figure in this primary. And that interview that you just conducted is a perfect example of it.