Fox's Mollie Hemingway on closing the southern border: “Sometimes you want to have a little bit of hurt so that people are incentivized to do something”

From the April 3 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

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AINSLEY EARHARDT (CO-HOST): Many in the media continue to say that there is no crisis down at the border but guess what they are concerned about? An avocado crisis. 


EARHARDT: The president said there will be a negative impact if he has to close the border but he's saying more important is national security. Do you agree? 

MOLLIE HEMINGWAY (FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR): Well that's what I think this media coverage shows. Some people, when they look at our border crisis, they're worried about rule of law, they're worried about national sovereignty, they're worried about a humanitarian crisis, or the drugs that are flowing over the border. And those are very serious concerns, also economic impact from a possible shutdown is serious. But when the media focus on whether they're going to get their breakfast with avocado toast instead of these bigger, pressing issues, it just shows how unserious they are about this very big issue.

EARHARDT: Yeah, you're right. The reports are showing that almost half of our veggies and about 40% of our fruit does come from Mexico, but I understand the president's issue too and his stance on this. Do you think that he should shut down the border? 

HEMINGWAY: I'm not even sure about that but the idea behind shutting down the border, there would be two issues there. One, there's so many people flowing over the border, there's so many people flowing across the parts of the border that are not currently guarded that they need to shut down the ports of entry to monitor those areas and also the flow of drugs there. The other issue is that sometimes you want to have a little bit of hurt so that people are incentivized to do something about the situation. That's true not just in this country but in other countries. And facing economic consequences for not taking this problem seriously or not doing enough to stop it, is one of the ways that you can make people care more about it. In this country though, where we should be most concerned, there are things that our legislators should be doing, closing loopholes. We have laws that incentivize trafficking children, either having children come as unaccompanied minors or knowing that if people come with children they kind of get a free entry into the country. These are things that our lawmakers should be worried about right now.

EARHARDT: I know. Why aren't they, Mollie? 

HEMINGWAY: Well I think for a lot of people in -- I think a lot of elite people don't face the negative consequences of a porous border the way that the rest of the country does. And this really is a bipartisan problem going back decades. We have known these problems were coming. We've known this crisis is looming, but we just don't have very serious people who are willing to make tough decisions to enforce rule of law or spend the money or change the laws that are necessary to change the situation, and even the fact that there is humanitarian crisis or other problems does not seem to motivate people. If avocados motivate people, then maybe it's a good thing, I don't know.

EARHARDT: They need their avocado toast, Mollie. 


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