BEN CARSON (GUEST): I spent the day earlier this week with Attorney General Barr in Delaware. We were at a hydroponics farm where people were being released from prison and were given an opportunity to learn some skills. And just being with him and hearing his comments, I know how deeply he cares about people, and particularly about Black lives. We talked about that. And I think that what he is -- is talking about can be interpreted depending on how a person feels. If they hate him and they hate the administration that he's in, then obviously they interpret it one way. And people who know him and understand what he's trying to say interpret it in another way.
MARTHA MACCALLUM (HOST): You know, I think so many people across this country who had their businesses shut down, who fought to reopen them, to find safe ways to do that, people who wanted to go to church who then saw people going to restaurants, I think that produced a lot of anger, frustration, confusion -- whatever you want to call it.
MACCALLUM: That was the heart of what a lot of what I heard in that statement.