RACHEL CAMPOS-DUFFY (FOX NEWS HOST): These investment firms, Larry Fink, you know, State Street, Vanguard, all these -- Blackrock, these policies are being pushed from really high up, and those people are very ideological. So will the Supreme Court decisions be able to impact the pressure coming from these progressives at these very powerful positions?
CHARLIE GASPARINO (FOX BUSINESS SENIOR CORRESPONDENT): So let's fast forward now from a month ago. Yes, they got the decision that they thought they'd get, a pretty resounding "no" to using race in any sort of context of promotion. In one case, it was college admissions. If you go to a court, if you're a white male, and something -- let's say you get passed over because you're a white male, you sue, it's going to be very hard, I am told, for a federal judge or any judge to say, "nah, you know, there's evidence, you know, this doesn't, the Supreme Court case doesn't apply to you" because the language is almost the same. It basically mirrors employment. On top of that, if it ever gets before the Supreme Court, you're toast if you're a Blackrock or you're a JP Morgan or whoever. So that's what I'm hearing. Is it going to happen tomorrow? No, these things take some time, but I think you're going to be seeing fewer of these policies going forward, probably fewer transgender male -- transgender males like in beer commercials going forward. I mean, that's what DEI is essentially pushing on the American public.
CAMPOS-DUFFY: And ESG.
GASPARINO: Well, ESG is a little different. You know, we could get into these acronyms all day, but ESG does have a G component in it. That's where DEI comes in.
CAMPOS-DUFFY: Well, it's time for companies to care about their shareholders and not so much about what HR department and DEI and all this kind of stuff says.
GASPARINO: Yes, but listen, it's hard to put the genie back in the barrel -- in the bottle, but the Supreme Court has just done so.