CHRIS WALLACE (HOST): You blame Democrats for holding the government hostage now, but back in 2013, you supported holding the government hostage on this question of Obamacare. Take a look.
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MICK MULVANEY: We believe that what we did was right. We did it for the right reasons. We did it for these kids here. They might not recognize that right now, but we really do believe that this was worth having the fight.
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WALLACE: Why was that legitimate then, the right reason to have a fight, but it's not legitimate now?
MULVANEY: That's a fair question, but here's the answer. They were asking us to vote for something in 2013 that we didn't like. In fact that we had a principled opposition to it. They were asking us to vote to fund Obamacare, something that was very difficult for Republicans to do, and we wouldn't go for it. Let me finish.
WALLACE: I wasn't saying a word.
MULVANEY: Here we are today, this is a bill that Democrats support. They're opposing a bill that they don't oppose in order to make a political point.
WALLACE: I'm sure --
MULVANEY: And that's a significant difference, Chris.
WALLACE: I think that's a debating point. The fact is there are budgetary implications to DACA. I mean, if you're going to deport 800,000 people that's going to cost money. You shut down the government in 2013, you writ-large, Republicans, because you didn't like Obamacare. You wanted to shut down the government again in 2015 because you didn't like Planned Parenthood. They are willing to shut down the government because they want a solution to DACA. You can say, “well, one thing is what's in the bill, one thing is what's not in the bill.” The point is that both you, them, and them now are willing to shut down the government because they support or oppose a policy. Same issue.
