RACHEL CAMPOS-DUFFY (CO-HOST) So they are going after, they've said they weren't going to go after our gas stoves, remember they kind of said, "no, that's not happening." Well, it is happening, and they're doing it by -- they're not going to go into your house and remove your stove. What they're going to do, and what they already are doing, is not putting the gas lines into your –
PETE HEGSETH (CO-HOST): Oh, is that what they're doing? They're not going to allow the inserting of gas lines?
CAMPOS-DUFFY: So it'll be in the future, right? So it's a way of killing the industry. So there's a huge percentage of new construction that has no gas lines, and it's even happening in places like Florida. So it's happening everywhere.
WILL CAIN (CO-HOST): What about your hot water heater?
CAMPOS-DUFFY: They want you to use electric for all these things, and so now the president of U.S. Oil and Gas Association, he's starting a group because we don't know how to fight back. How do we -- I'll explain why this makes me mad. Here's what he says. People are really upset about this because the kitchen is the center of everyone's home. It's where we raise our families, and where we teach our kids, and people see this as the environmentalists kicking in their door and tattling on them to the government. They feel like it's a gross invasion of their privacy, of their personal space, and they want someone to tell them how to fight back. This is about choice and freedom, and it's about privacy. They're also doing this with lightbulbs. So they are now going to ban the manufacturing of incandescent lights. You have to do these LED lights which, by the way, I'm not even sure about the environmental superiority of these LED lights because they're very difficult to, you know, dispose of. I love incandescent lights. They make -- so here's the point. You'll never hear me say this, I'm pro-choice on lightbulbs, I'm pro-choice on gas stoves, and I'm going to tell you what, this is a war on women because, especially, they're messing with all of our appliances, dryers, dishwashers, they're not as --
HEGSETH: Men load the dishwasher.
CAMPOS-DUFFY: They're not as effective anymore. You see you have to run your dishwasher twice.
HEGSETH: Oh, I'm saying men load the dishwasher.
CAIN: Yeah, why is it a war on women?
HEGSETH: I load the dishwasher. I turn on lights.
CAMPOS-DUFFY: I know, but, in general, I just want you to look at this from a historical point of view. The appliances, when they first came out, they were a source of freedom for women from the home. Now granted, we've given a lot of those tasks over to you guys, it's great, but it is a war on women, it's a war on families. It's making things worse in the home, more, expensive in the home, clothes dirtier, dishes dirtier, bad lighting, and I can't warm my tortillas. Like, what the heck else can these people do?
HEGSETH: They're not going to stop 'till they take it all.
CAMPOS-DUFFY: That's right.
CAIN: Bad lighting and I can't warm my tortillas.
HEGSETH: But it's true. I remember when they phased out incandescent production of lightbulbs, so you had to find stores where they still had them in stock. What's happening in August is they're banned. They're banned from sales. So now they've completed the timeline, and if you open up a yardsale on your corner and you try to sell your old incandescent lightbulbs, someone's gonna call the cops. They're gonna upcharge it.
CAMPOS-DUFFY: They call the cops if your kid has a lemonade stand. You're darn right they'll get you for those lightbulbs.
HEGSETH: It is the result of climate zealotry, of a religion that surrounds climate, and you don't feel it until they grab into your kitchen and go, nope, you can't have this, can't have this. Pretty soon you look around and go, what do I do, cook over a fire?