NBC’s Chuck Todd Stuns Rudy Giuliani Into Silence By Explaining The Hypocrisy Of His Trump Defense

From the October 9 edition of NBC’s Meet the Press:

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CHUCK TODD (HOST): It's not about saying it, Mr. Mayor, it's doing it. He's bragging about making unwanted sexual advances.

RUDY GIULIANI: It’s wrong. It is wrong.

TODD: You're saying that the words are wrong. How about the actions?

GIULIANI: Well, the actions would be even worse if they were actions. Talk and actions are two different things.

TODD: Wait a minute, I say that -- New York Times. Temple Taggart was 21-year-old beauty contestant when she said Mr. Trump kissed her on the lips without invitation at a pageant event. It was an unwanted advance she has turned over in her head for years. Watching him relive his sexual aggressions in this video, she said in an interview on Saturday, made me feel a lot better. She said, it was like, thank you, now no one can say I made this up. You were implying this stuff was made up.

GIULIANI: I'm not implying it was made up. I'm saying we're talking about things that he was talking about. I don't know how much he was exaggerating. I don't know how much is true. I certainly don't know the details of it. But I do know this is unfortunately the kind of talk that goes on among a lot of people, and they shouldn't talk about this. This is wrong. He realizes that. He understands it now. He's running for president. He realizes that he's got the weight of the responsibility of all these people on his shoulder, and this something he's not going to do in the future. And he's very apologetic about it and wants to move on to what's going to be really important 30 days from now. He is going to lower taxes. She's going to raise taxes. He's going to add to our military, she's going to decrease our military. He's going to support the police at a time in which we've had the biggest increase in crime in the last 41 years. He's going to take on radical Islamic terrorism. And he's not -- one thing he's not is what came across in WikiLeaks, and that is two people. Hillary Clinton actually specifically described that she's two different people. To the financial people who are giving millions of dollars, she's on their side and wants to be a big part of the government, but she tells them she has to pretend to everybody else that she isn't. And that come out when she was running --

TODD: If you believe that Hillary Clinton says one thing in private and that means what she really is is what she is in private, should we assume what Donald Trump did in that Access Hollywood bus is really what Donald Trump is like in private? That's what you're implying here with Hillary Clinton.

GIULIANI: You know, Chuck, the reality is that in both cases, both people have things in their personal lives that maybe if they could redo it, they would do it differently. And the reality is that this is a situation in which neither side should throw stones because both sides have sinned.


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