From the November 15 edition of CNN's Anderson Cooper 360:
JONATHAN TASINI: You asked, did Donald Trump do anything in the campaign that would have inspired -- I want to call them the extreme right, I think it's wrong to call them the alt-right, and I would say at least two things. First of all, Donald Trump promoted the birther movement, for many --
JEFFREY LORD: Which is not racist.
TASINI: It is.
LORD: -- Five white guys --
TASINI: No, no if you think the birther movement, which doubted whether President Obama was born in the United States --
TASINI: And that he was some, in addition, as a side thing, a secret Muslim, is not racist -- it is absolutely racist.
LORD: So, again -- again, when this was said of Chester Allen Arthur being born in Canada, that was racist?
TASINI: Allen Arthur? Are you kidding me?
LORD: I am not kidding.
TASINI: Is this a comedy show, Jeff?
LORD: John McCain?
TASINI: Let me give a second example. The second example --
ANDERSON COOPER (HOST): I don't even know how to transition. I don't know.