From the July 19 edition of CNN's New Day:
ALISYN CAMEROTA (CO-HOST): Yes, but the point is without acknowledging it, what does that say about the [Donald Trump] campaign and their tactics?
REP. SEAN DUFFY (R-WI): First of all, I don't think he should have called in during the speech. This is a big moment. It's an important story. And it would have been nice for the Fox viewers at that point to have a chance to hear it instead of hearing from Mr. Trump. So I don't think that was the best call to take the limelight away from them off the stage, but that doesn't mean he didn't watch it, in my opinion.
CHRIS CUOMO (CO-HOST): It's a pattern, though. Melania [Trump's] not a big deal but then you basically lie about it, OK? That's what it comes down to. This is the same set of phrases. You're right, it does happen a lot in politics. Explain it that way. It's not what happened. [Gov.] John Kasich [(R-OH)], the Trump campaign decided to go after the popular governor of Ohio. I get what the beef is, but it's an odd play. So I ask about it. It's denied even though I read the quote to [Paul] Manafort about what he said. He says, “I didn't go after Kasich.” He said “if he thinks not supporting Trump will help him be president that is dumb, dumb, dumb,” there may have been a fourth dumb. That's the quote. He says, “I didn't say it.” Why do these things this way? You know it makes the story worse.