BRIDGET TODD (HOST): Something that I've noticed about the content of folks like Fresh and Fit and Andrew Tate especially is that so much of the topics are all over the place, like, they talk a lot about crypto, which I always found so interesting. Is it just that crypto is sort of synonymous with young people who are very much online, and they're just trying to give them what they want? Or is there something else going on there?
JUSTIN HOROWITZ (GUEST): You know, I think crypto trading is like part of the grindset, right? So it's like what are we doing to make money? How can we make money the fastest way possible and how can we do it efficiently and be alpha males while doing it? So I just feel like cryptocurrency kind of falls into the world of the manosphere because it's all about doing something quickly and doing something big. I think those are just two aspects of the manosphere that are just like, you know, you can kind of apply that to anything. Making money, meeting girls, dating, and I think cryptocurrency, you know, I think is just hot and trendy and I think that's just where it's fallen recently.
TODD: Oh my God, I love how you put that. That it's just doing something, it's the grindset of doing something quick and big, I think that's something that all of this content kind of has in common. This idea that there is a cheat code to life. That there is a cheat code that is going to get you rich, there is a cheat code that is going to get you fit, there is a cheat code that is going to get you be loved by women, sexual prowess, like social power, you can just gamify it and if you have not figured that out, you just don't have the right cheat code. I think it's all kind of wrapped up in that.
HOROWITZ: I really like that term cheat code, that's not something I used in this, but I think that, you know, the whole idea of the redpill, so being like women are the root of all evil, you know, understanding that women are the reason I'm not financially stable, women are the reason I'm not dating, women are the reason of so and so and so and so, for whatever poor man's problems he has, I think that that is also sort of a mental cheat code to be like, these are the reasons I'm not happy, you know, it's because of women. And I think that that's just kind of another way to understand the framing when it comes to the mentality of it.