BOB SELLERS (HOST): David, give me your feeling for this. You have ten reasons. We don't have time for ten, but what are some of the ones that you think people should be most aware of.
DAVID HOROWITZ (GUEST): It doesn't make any sense to sue the government that freed the slaves. You should be suing the Confederacy, that was this warring power. The United States spent probably the equivalent of trillions of dollars, they -- we gave 350,000 lives, mainly white lives, in the Union Army to free the slaves. There isn't a slave alive, there's not the child of a slave alive, probably not even the grandchild of the slave alive. This is just racial extortion. The majority of Blacks in America - and this is a well-kept secret - are in the middle class. Not to mention, you know, the multi-millionaires and billionaires like, one of my favorite billionaires, Shaquille O'Neal.
But American Blacks have more privilege, more opportunity, more equality, more rights, more wealth than the Blacks in any other nation on Earth, including all of Black Africa and the Black Caribbean.
If you are a Black person, you are blessed to have been born in the United States. That's just the reality. You just have to look, you know, at the TV screens. Look at the ads. I bet 70% of them feature Black actors and actresses, integrated couples, taboo relationships like Black men and white -- well, what used to be taboo. So do you think these wealthy companies want to lose money? They know that their customers aren't racist, otherwise they'd wouldn't be investing hundreds of millions of dollars in ads that feature Black people, would they?
SELLERS: Ok, well, you also make the point you -- I think want to -- correct me if I'm wrong -- one of your bullet points is that African-Americans in this country have already been paid reparations. And I don't know exactly what you mean by that. So why don't you explain?
HOROWITZ: They've been paid 20, whatever -- last time I looked it was $22 trillion spent on the war on poverty. A lot of that affects Black people, although it wasn't specifically for them, they get to benefit by it. You know, I have to laugh when people say Blacks have marginalized and therefore oppressed. Blacks are the center of attention in our country, they're the beneficiaries of most of the goodies that the government gives out -- in compensation for what? For people who have never been slaves. For people whose parents have never been slaves. Come on! It's, you know, we should remember the tragic origins of our country when slavery was global.
SELLERS: Ok, ok.
HOROWITZ: If slavery was an original sin it's an African sin because every Black person who is shipped to this country as a slave was enslaved by Black Africans who took --
SELLERS: Ok, ok. we're running out of time, David. I got to go. I'll just point out it's two white guys talking about this, but I think a lot of people agree with you, including a number of people of color. So we appreciate your joining us.