GRIFF JENKINS (CO-HOST): Pete, you mentioned talking to business owners. I talked to a surf shop owner in Ocean City, Maryland. He opened this weekend and he says thank goodness he did it. He makes, for his business, essentially a year's funding in three months of the summer and it's just in time for him. We'll see what the experience is in Maryland is as they start to reopen.
PETE HEGSETH (CO-HOST): Listen, People are going to start to open up. They're done. They're done. They said, "I don't have a business if I can't open my doors. You've told me what experts told me to do, flatten the curve. Got it. I'm not waiting for the vaccine which you're telling me is the new standard.
This is going to happen. This is part of the reason why governors opened up. They knew people were going out either way. They don't want to look like fools, and this is the people leading the way.
JEDEDIAH BILA (CO-HOST): Yeah. And one of the unique experiences of being in a place like Manhattan, I mean, you do go insane, because oftentimes you're stuck in s small apartment. You don't have any outdoor space. All the common areas in your building, like a roof deck or any area you can get any sunlight have been shut down. So people are starting to go crazy, they're starting to go stir-crazy. Their mental health is suffering. So I said this a long time, the second the weather gets warmer, you're going to have people who will just flood outside, because --
HEGSETH: And they should. And they should.
BILA: They can't help it. They know that they need the Vitamin D. They know that they need -- their sanity is suffering. So, the hope is that people will be responsible. Do I think everyone will be responsible? No. Do I think you're going to prevent that? No, because you're not going to be able to keep people inside forever. It's not possible. It's not feasible. So at some point you're going to have to open up and you're going to have to let the chips fall where they may, as terrible that sounds. I mean, listen, I'm very empathetic to this. As you guys know, I lived through it. It's terrible. The virus is awful. But at some point life will have to resume. That is a part of reality and you can't keep people entrapped forever. You just can't do it.
HEGSETH: Jed, that is a great point. You say at some point, and a lot of people are saying that point is now. Why are we waiting any longer, what are we waiting for? Why 25% of capacity? Why one customer, not two customers? Why Walmart but not me? Those questions are done. People are saying -- and so I think you're going to start to see this movement of people defying orders. So we shall see.
HEGSETH: We've got a lot of business owners coming on the program today.