Charlie Kirk on Epstein disclosure: “I am worried it's starting to seep in to lower propensity voters”
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From the July 16, 2025, edition of The Charlie Kirk Show, streamed on Rumble
CHARLIE KIRK (HOST): Here's my bigger concern, my friend. How old are you?
CALLER: 34.
KIRK: 34. So you're not you're not too much older than I am. Are you worried the midterms might be impacted if we do not clean up this Epstein situation and get clarity on this? Do you see it amongst people of your generation — young men, politically engaged, disengaged? Tell me what you're hearing about that.
CALLER: Sure. Great question. And, personally, I mean, I — it's not something that I care that much about. I mean, I think we all understand that there's a lot of dark stuff that goes on the world that that helps push things around. You know, it is important. But if you were to release all that, you know, what does that really lead to? Because I think he's gone. A lot of the other guys who are may have been — may or may not have been involved are not around potentially. And when you think about how many folks are gonna be suing the government immediately because, oh, I was not involved. This list has defamed me. But just to your point about how much do I hear about it, I mean, not really. I mean, it's something, but I think it's it seems to be like just a a portion of the online, kind of portion of our movement. But it's not something that I really care that much about, and none of my friends really care that much about.
KIRK That's refreshing to hear. It's interesting.
CALLER: We have a million things to focus on right now, and let's not get derailed. We have to execute.
KIRK: And look. And I will say though and but you can also see people online that really do care a lot about this. So I think — I will say it's very interesting. I had a phone call with a — it was such it was one of my favorite phone calls of the week. Really a great guy. And I said, hey, you know, what do you think — you know, he's a business guy, young, really into crypto, well-respected, and I was going for one of my walks. I said, hey, what do you think of this Epstein stuff? And he said, what's going on with the Epstein stuff? I said, oh, I want your life. Whatever life you're living. He's like, I saw a meme about Kevin Spacey wanting the Epstein stuff out. Is that what you mean? So it's important everybody to kinda take a step back. I'm not saying that no one cares about it. I'm not saying — but there are gradations of engagement. And remember, we are in the summer of 2025. People are kinda politics-burned and politics-fatigued. I am worried it's starting to seep in to lower propensity voters, and when seeping into kind of the lower — not information. I hate that, but lower prop. So many people are chronically online. And I disagree, some people say, oh, only chronically online people care about it. That's not correct. But I will say though that if the more online you are, the more you definitely care about this. Thank you, my friend, for being a —
CALLER: Can I say one more thing?
KIRK: Yes.
CALLER: Sorry. I think we also need to think about messaging-wise that separating what we say the Epstein situation. I mean, obviously, child trafficking and all that is incredibly wrong. And by the way, this DOJ has been arresting hundreds, if not thousands, of people in that, you know — doing that bad stuff.
KIRK: Boom.
CALLER: And so that's not that's not being slowed down at all, but we need to realize Epstein is his own guy. He had some weird connections, and we'll get to that in time. But we're still arresting child predators every single day, and that's the focus of the DOJ.
KIRK: Amen.
CALLER: And we need to be able to separate those two things.
KIRK: Well said, my friend.